Ford Unveils 2011 V6 Mustang and V6 Performance Pack

[LWillmann]

Just as I said, and it looks very promising for Ford indeed!

http://autos.aol.com/article/2011-ford-mustang?icid=main|hp-laptop|dl2|link2|http%3A%2F%2Fautos.aol.com%2Farti cle%2F2011-ford-mustang

With those changes, I might actually be able to get past the ugly ass tail light area on the 2010+ Mustangs.

[98chevyman]

plus one on the ugly tail light panel

[axistang]

I hope they upgrade the base V8 to a 6.2L. Doubt that will ever happen.

[crumbie]

5.0 is coming back sonS

I hope they upgrade the base V8 to a 6.2L. Doubt that will ever happen.

[justamach]

hells yea. the 5.0bigger and badder this time around

[DTSVT03]

5 liters and 4 cams......gotta love the potential of this combo especially is they use the aluminum block and heads.

[crumbie]

Gonna have to get a new silver 5.0 to match my fox 5.0

[LWillmann]

V8 will be over 400HP. I have known this for over a year, what I don't know for sure is the displacement or cam configuration.

We do a lot of work for Ford here, so I have direct contact with Ford employees. I have known that the 2011 Mustang would be a much better competitor with the Camaro than the current models, the question is, will GM step up, or will the Government hold them back?

I'm betting that the Government will hold them back.

As much as I hate to say this, right now, Ford is the only one of the big three that hasn't had to bow to the feds and let them reach in and take control. And for that reason alone, I think it's SERIOUSLY worth considering buying a Ford vehicle.

If only Ford offered something like OnStar so my when my wife locked her keys in the vehicle... That and if they had something that looked as sexy as the Tahoe, I think I'd be sold.

[SlowOhFoh]

sounds like ford has made something nice... too bad it'll be 27k for a damn v6...

[axistang]

Is the 5.0 going to have blower friendly compression? Probably not with 400hp from a 302.

[NEMESISVETTE]

Is the 5.0 going to have blower friendly compression? Probably not with 400hp from a 302.

That 400hp is with a blower.. Pssshhhh you know how Ford does it.

[MrDavid]

That 400hp is with a blower.. Pssshhhh you know how Ford does it.

+1. :wrenchbanana:

[snowman03gt]

the 2011 GT comes with 400HP:wrenchbanana:

[The EnforceR]

wont believe it until i see it on a dyno

[Whyte864]

400 crank hp. so it will probably put what, about 360 or so to the wheels? So what ford is trying to say, is that a 2011 ford can give a 2005 chevy a run for it's money? hmm.....

:D :wrenchbanana:

[SlowOhFoh]

when you look at this new motor it looks like an updated version of the 4.6 modular...

400hp crank should be fairly easy with 4v heads and a decent intake manifold, you can run some pretty nasty cams in a 4v before you even hear it lope

[jmd]

ford is moving forward. Chevy and especially Chrysler are going backwards. sad to see.

[LWillmann]

ford is moving forward. Chevy and especially Chrysler are going backwards. sad to see.

How is Chevy moving backwards?

[NEMESISVETTE]

ford is moving forward. Chevy and especially Chrysler are going backwards. sad to see.

How is Chevy moving backwards?

Ya? I think there moving forward... I mean they did stop making that God awful GTO Civic.

[bolden3]

Ya? I think there moving forward... I mean they did stop making that God awful GTO Civic.

Hahahahha

[KBDRK98]

wont believe it until i see it on a dyno







+ 1

[Nauty99SS]

mine go's forward unless it's in R ... geeezzzzz !!!

[jmd]

How is Chevy moving backwards?

looks like some of the top executives are leaving because the gov is trying to tell them how build cars. they dropped in sales again last quarter. ford sales increased.

[jmd]

Ya? I think there moving forward... I mean they did stop making that God awful GTO Civic.

lol, they killed Pontiac and kept Buick. they shit canned Saturn which was one of their best selling lines. thank god for the cobalt sales because they sure cannot sell enough vette's to survive.:whistle:

[LWillmann]

looks like some of the top executives are leaving because the gov is trying to tell them how build cars. they dropped in sales again last quarter. ford sales increased.

lol, they killed Pontiac and kept Buick. they shit canned Saturn which was one of their best selling lines. thank god for the cobalt sales because they sure cannot sell enough vette's to survive.:whistle:

I think they top execs are justified for leaving. I wouldn't want the government who is technically THEIR employee telling THEM what to do. That's a major conflict of interest, IMO. But I think this all falls within someones' grand scheme of things. Government running and controlling businesses rather than the people who elect them into position. It's sad really. The same can be said for the health care debate, but I'm not going to say anything else about that here. I really like that we don't have huge political debates here.

Truth be told, Ford isn't THAT much better off, They lose money on every Mustang they sell, a bunch of it actually. The thing that saved ford from Government bailout money is that they mortgaged everything a few years back. They even admitted that if one of the other two (GM or Chrysler) went under, they'd need the Government's help.

Chevy is losing money hand over fist on Cobalt sales, bleeding like a siv on them actually. It costs them WAY more to build the Cobalt than they sell them for, they just sell them that cheap to be competitive, hoping to make up for it in truck and SUV sales. And those have declined so badly that they're now losing their ass all over the place.

If GM is going backward, it's not by choice, it's by force. When Rick Wagoner was in place he was headed in a good direction. He was doing what he could to save the company and keep it out of bankruptcy. But Obama wanted it where it is now, under the Government's control. So he forced Wagoner out. IMO, he should have had no authority to do that, being that he is a servant of the people and is therefore an employee of Wagoner himself. How can my employee fire me? The guy they put in place is nothing more than a yes man and a puppet and will do whatever the President and Congress tell him to do. Everything GM wants to do has to be run passed a Congressional committee if I'm not mistaken.

How fair is it that all the GM shareholders were left out in the dark when the Government took a 60% stake, the Canadian government took their stake, and the UAW took theirs? By the time it was over with, the original shareholders were left with nothing after the Government carved up the ownership. And the American people said NOTHING.

I think GM was trying to shed Saturn BECAUSE it was a good brand and didn't want to see it be tarnished in what was happening. I think they saw that it could continue on unscathed if they could sell it to another company that wanted to keep it going.

Pontiac just wasn't selling enough to make a good business case for them, I'm betting, while Buick must be. Or perhaps they have some kind of plan for Buick that we don't know about. I know they wanted to reduce the number of same models on the same line with different name plates because of the confusion, and letting Pontiac go would accomplish that easily. However, Pontiac was the upscale performance division of Chevy until you got to the Corvette. <-- I know I'll take heat from the Camaro guys on that, but if you Compare the body and interior on the 4th gen F-cars, the Pontiac cars were upscale by comparison. And the G6, was certainly upscale compared to the Cobalt. While the G8 and GTO were upscale performance cars compared to 'similar' Chevrolet cars.

My question is WHY keep GMC and Chevy. What does GMC offer that Chevy doesn't? Why not take those GMC models, and move them into the Chevy line up, and remove the GMC line. That takes you to Chevy, Buick, and Cadillac, right? That gets them down to their bread and butter and let's them really concentrate on business. They can get back to what they do best, building quality vehicles at a good price.

Oh, and bring production HOME to the USA.


*****

Back on point though......

GM is moving forward.... They can be credited for getting Ford off it's ass and getting a better performance motor into the Mustang. You HAVE to give them credit for that. The Vette is awesome as ever, the Vette and Camaro both are sex on wheels, and they are doing their best despite the Government having their hands in the cookie jar.

Besides I don't think of them as General Motors any more, I think of them as Government Motors.


I think is one of the big three is actually losing ground, it's CHRYSLER... They're in the worst shape of all, IMO.

[axistang]

Pontiac just wasn't selling enough to make a good business case for them, I'm betting, while Buick must be. Or perhaps they have some kind of plan for Buick that we don't know about. I know they wanted to reduce the number of same models on the same line with different name plates because of the confusion, and letting Pontiac go would accomplish that easily.


You're right on that one. Buick has sold more cars in China in the past 3 years (not even counting US sales) than Pontiac has sold in the United States in the same time period. They have 1.3 billion people and we have .3 billion so the more they develop the more their consumer trends are going to affect us.

[jmd]

Chrysler is done. Buick is china. ford is #1. the world is comming to an end. lol

[justamach]

i might be wrong, but i think the big thing keeping ford up is the trucks. lots of government and state owned companies who provide vehicles for their employees buy fords. where i work, we probably have close to 100 company vehicles. when the vehicles get 110k miles and are 10+ years old, they auction them off and purchase new ones. and in the past they would get ford, chevy, or dodge vehicles. depending on which gives the best deal. the past 3 years, maybe 4 all the vehicles with exception of 2 or 3 were fords. i know one company isnt going to break or make ford chevy or dodge, but there are companies like the one i work at all over the country, and that would make a difference

[Whyte864]

i might be wrong, but i think the big thing keeping ford up is the trucks. lots of government and state owned companies who provide vehicles for their employees buy fords. where i work, we probably have close to 100 company vehicles. when the vehicles get 110k miles and are 10+ years old, they auction them off and purchase new ones. and in the past they would get ford, chevy, or dodge vehicles. depending on which gives the best deal. the past 3 years, maybe 4 all the vehicles with exception of 2 or 3 were fords. i know one company isnt going to break or make ford chevy or dodge, but there are companies like the one i work at all over the country, and that would make a difference

I can agree with that. Ford vehicles do get used for alot of commercial use. Not to mention police, FBI, ATF, CIA, etc.

[badjuju342]

The 2005-up Mustang was a brilliant move on Ford's part. While I will always be a bowtie guy, the styling of the Mustang was unmistakable and you knew what it was without a single badge on it. Those cars were flying off the showroom floors when they first came out.Chrysler followed suit quickly with the Challenger. I remember talking on LS1tech with a well known GM exec who told me "the 2 door coupe market is dead and SUVs are our bread and butter ' I asked him about the Mustang sales and he got really quiet. Then Katrina killed that marketJust shows how far their heads were in the sand at the time.It took them 4 years to even come up with a pony car after they axed the 2006 GTO. Building Cobalts and Malibus is cute and all but the only area the Asian automakers cannot ever compete with domestics is the musclecar and the group of buyers that want those cars are older and well off. Most the buyers want a car like they had in high school and we ain't talking no Corolla here.

[SlowC5]

There hasn't been a worthwhile Mustang since the Mach 1. They all have this stupid overly hyped exhaust note out of the factory, and that's largely why their drivers are largely retarded and overly aggressive for their POS behind the wheel. The new commercial makes it worse, they have some retard sit in the driver's seat, start the car, and he's all amazed at how it sounds. Fuckin Gayness Niner! If I drove one of those large buckets of crap I'd get rid of it right away. My stock C5 was silent as all hell but yet blows the living bejesus out of any stock Mustank which happens to have " "a cool sounding exhaust" just so you think it must be fast " ? There hasn't been a cool looking Mustang since the Mach 1, good thing the Camaro is back and it looks far more badass than any Mustang, lets drown out the garbage mustangs that crawl all over Greenville. Fuck you Mustang jeackovs.

[bottlefedpony]

There hasn't been a worthwhile Mustang since the Mach 1. They all have this stupid overly hyped exhaust note out of the factory, and that's largely why their drivers are largely retarded and overly aggressive for their POS behind the wheel. The new commercial makes it worse, they have some retard sit in the driver's seat, start the car, and he's all amazed at how it sounds. Fuckin Gayness Niner! If I drove one of those large buckets of crap I'd get rid of it right away. My stock C5 was silent as all hell but yet blows the living bejesus out of any stock Mustank which happens to have " "a cool sounding exhaust" just so you think it must be fast " ? There hasn't been a cool looking Mustang since the Mach 1, good thing the Camaro is back and it looks far more badass than any Mustang, lets drown out the garbage mustangs that crawl all over Greenville. Fuck you Mustang jeackovs.

Easy there killer....you know you busted a nut the first time you saw my GT :D

I for one am thrilled that ford finally corrected the wrong they had with the old v6. Fords new car lineup is very impressive. Sure the mustangs don't sound like the chevy's, but thats what makes them unique.

[SlowC5]

I knew I could get a rise out of you, sell it as scrap metal did ya?