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badjuju342
02-25-2006, 08:11 AM
So you going to try that body repair or paint prep yourself? Here's a few ideas on how to get started.
1.Evaluate if the body panel in question is worth fixing or needs to be replaced. You might think you'd save a few bucks by repairing it but you might find that you can save a lot of time by finding a straight one at the junkyard. This is especially true in the case of rust.
2. Speaking of rust , you need to get all of it out of there and not just cover it up . Some coatings like POR-15 will kill a small amount of rust but visible body panels need to repaired completely.
3. Body filler , less is better. A thin coating on a small wrinkle is ok but trying to fill in a 2 inch dent is going to crack in a very short time. Also, be sparing with hardener in body filler , excessive amounts will attack fesh, clean metal and compound your problem.
4. Sanding blocks are your friends. It's just about impossible to smooth down paint by mere hand sanding it and "digging" in the paint with your hand compounds the problem . A sanding block over a wide area will yield much better results.
5. Primer seal it first ! Just using regular primer will not effectively seal the area . A good sealer will keep the metal body panel protected much better. This isn't a critical process on plastic or fiberglass. Also , use a uniform color of primer as it can affect the hue of the final paint and cause a mismatch.
6. Guide coat it. After you think it's smooth enough for the final paint color , use a light dusting of black paint then block sand . This will reveal any high or low spots in the body panel. A good guide coat will have a light "freckled" appearance.
7. Always remove all trim /components in an area to be repaired , this will result in a much more professional result.
8. When applying paint/ primer , multiple light thin coats are better than fewer heavy coats and reduce the chance or runs or sags.
9. Sanding , you need to get to all areas and don't leave any shiny areas , you'll get much better adhesion of the new paint. Use the proper grit of sandpaper for the job .
10 . If you're not sure on how to do it , get help. It can look so easy and produce very disappointing results.
This is just a basic guide and our two very capable mods here can elaborate much more on proper techniques.

Biff85ta
02-25-2006, 12:06 PM
You forgot one thing PATIENCE. Do not rush things it can mean the difference between looking at something and being proud of it or wishing you had spent the extra thirty minutes to finish that last spot a little better.

badjuju342
02-26-2006, 10:24 PM
True enough. Here's what patience and a LOT of elbow grease will get you :
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4327291&postcount=91

Pontiac_Joe
07-07-2006, 01:08 AM
Great job! my T/a has a couple dents that im a bit nervous to mess around with my driver side fender has about a 2 inch dent in it with a small radius ... not sure what to do with that eigther fill it(cheaper,worse result) or replace it but its hard to find parts for 90 plus a couple places where the metal got pushed in so it needs a good day or so of work (Dents, distributor, Interior)

Joey

badjuju342
07-07-2006, 07:18 AM
The main thing is get your dents as shallow as possible before filling them. Working the dent out from the rear of the panel (if possible) instead of using a puller is best. Also , you could try working the metal with a torch. Basically you heat the area red hot , then apply a wet rag to it immediately. This "shrinks" the metal and levels the dent. It's rather complicated and I would try this technique on a junkyard panel before doing it on your car. A lot of times , you won't need to fill the area at all after a little practice.

NoChrome
07-23-2006, 02:31 PM
another option to fix the dent, without destroying the paint, is set the car out in the sun, to let it get nice and hot, if winter put a blowdryer on the spot until the spot is hot to the touch, then sitck dry ice on the surface. Works wonders.

CobraGT
03-20-2007, 10:30 PM
I tried that with a heat gun and dry ice on my wifes RSX. It didn't work. I wound up taking it to work, took the grinder, the stud gun and the dent puller and a thin wipe of bondo. Prime and paint. Can't even tell a golf ball hit it.

NoChrome
03-21-2007, 04:05 AM
My old man did it to my moms nissian sentra after a hail storm, maybe I missed something. Ill ask him about it.