Motor decisions

[The Parking Lot Announcer]

I have a 91 fox and a few motor combinations are goin through my head. I want to go with either one or two turbos and i want to stay small block me and thomas talked about 408w but im thinkin just a basic bolt on maybe cammed and forged internal 302 for now any ideas

[mrlittle]

put a stock ls1 in it. be faster than all those other combinations.

[The Parking Lot Announcer]

no hybrid but good try eric and i texted you today and now im dissapointed

[SlowC5]

LS7 is your only option.

[boosted89sccrx]

Its is a proven option that alot of ford guys do put chevy motors in there cars man but be different and go crazy with it. Just dont spray it like every other typical v8 car. Go turbo man thatd be awesome.

[SlowC5]

*facepalm*
unsubscribe.

[MrDavid]

Just dont spray it like every other typical v8 car.

Do you even realize why the majority of people on this board with power adders use nitrous?

Let me give you a couple reasons:

-Its the least expensive (pending you don't have a direct port kit with ridiculous intake.)

-Its a little different on a V8 than it is a I4, as in, a V8 has TQ already, and it gives us a shitload more. An I4 doesn't have TQ so you need a turbo to make real power. TQ wins races, HP sells cars.

-Easy and inexpensive to tune as opposed to a boosted app.

-Your fuel economy is much better due to being able to keep smaller fuel injectors.

-Most of these LS1 engines will hold a 200 shot on the stock shortblock. (ask me how I know)

[MIKE02TA]

306 boss block with a preicision 76gts turbo should do the trick, afr 185's, trick flow upper intake with a gt40p lower. was a very good combination on one of my buddy's cars.

[TurboLSX]

im partial to turbos myself, they make the most power, as long as their no on a honda vtak

[keith_AE2010]

Not trying to be a prick, but it's not a motor, it's an engine. Your power windows go up and down because of a motor, your car gets power from an engine. But, I vote ls1 with spray.

[1997b4c]

Don't matter the build won't happen.

[boosted89sccrx]

I do realiz that and u make a good point but so far looks like one person on here said nitrous the other two said turbo oh and they both have v8's. Nitrous u always have to keep buying boost you buy it once and your done and you never run out in the middle of a run or have to get it up to 1200 psi before u can use it. I like boost u like nitrous ok cool with me

[WhiteIrocZ]

Nitrous u always have to keep buying boost you buy it once and your done

This is true, however, on a budget nitrous is the great equalizer. Let's just say he lucks up and fab's a turbo kit himself for $3000. That would be 60 bottle fills at the highest priced place I know of.

As David said, with a V8, we already have torque out the ass. Combine that with the huge torque produced by spraying and you got a pretty lethal combo on your hands.

Basically, if you can afford it, go for a turbo build. If you don't have $3000+ and fab skills to, buy a nitrous kit and go racing.

[406malibu]

I do realiz that and u make a good point but so far looks like one person on here said nitrous the other two said turbo oh and they both have v8's. Nitrous u always have to keep buying boost you buy it once and your done and you never run out in the middle of a run or have to get it up to 1200 psi before u can use it. I like boost u like nitrous ok cool with me

you're forgetting, you can surprise a bunch more people on spray than with boost... Much harder to hide a turbo.

[TurboLSX]

I do realiz that and u make a good point but so far looks like one person on here said nitrous the other two said turbo oh and they both have v8's. Nitrous u always have to keep buying boost you buy it once and your done and you never run out in the middle of a run or have to get it up to 1200 psi before u can use it. I like boost u like nitrous ok cool with me

i have a v8 and my turbo is larger than your engine....so:D

nitrous is about the same as a superchargers once you get all the nitrous goodies. you can build both of these on a budget. Either way you can spray or boost, in the end you will need a 12 bolt rear or 9inch. built transmission and about $1200 in a fuel system.

With a turbo- there is no budget.

you can also surprise people even more with a turbo....beat them by 20 cars instead of 10. lol

[BlueMongoose]

put a stock ls1 in it. be faster than all those other combinations.

so a stock ls1 is faster then a 408w lol

[TurboLSX]

sam's got the go fast recipe on a budget, that foxbody goes bottom 6s on a 100 shot.

[91SILVERFOX]

do a 351 based engine combo the stock block windsor will hold much more than a stock block 302. if you go big like a 408 you could use two master power 70mm and the spool will be good. just always have to rember the bigger the engine the bigger the turbo and wastegate and bov which all equal more money. and i would use anything less than 88 really in my opinion anything less than a 91mm if you go single. just be too violent other wise t

[DTSVT03]

I vote for a 331 stroker with a single 76gts! Use a stock 302 block with stud and valley girdles. That should put you well over 800hp depending on h/c/i.

My turbo setup makes 590hp and 620tq, so that throws the whole nitrous makes more tq than hp statement out the window. Still love ya David lol


FIX.T

[crumbie]

500 rwhp in a light foxbody will surprise you! More than that and you're talkin high dollar block, fuel system, trans etc...

[SlowOhFoh]

358R with FordGT heads from MMR w/ a pair of 76's hanging off of it

[2001z]

Might want to tell everyone your budget or if you really have a budget. I have spray and my entire setup and standalone wasnt to cheap but cheaper than a turbo setup would have ran me. If i had the money and endless budget i would def go turbo. Hopefully one day.

[SlowOhFoh]

yeah, the block alone for what i said is like 5800 bucks or something lol

[406malibu]

I vote for a 331 stroker with a single 76gts! Use a stock 302 block with stud and valley girdles. That should put you well over 800hp depending on h/c/i.

My turbo setup makes 590hp and 620tq, so that throws the whole nitrous makes tq statement out the window. Still love ya David lol

maybe so, but with juice its going to make that torque INSTANTLY and keep it through the power band... While you are spooling up, a nitrous setup car is going to jump out on you. All else being equal (peak power numbers, suspension, tires, etc.) a nitrous car is going to go faster because the torque curve isn't going to look like mt. Everest.

[DTSVT03]

That all depends on what trans you are using as well, and there is also a thing called brake boosting if you are roll racing. Nitrous seems to fall off on the top end, and the turbo cars seem to pull harder up top.

[2001z]

maybe so, but with juice its going to make that torque INSTANTLY and keep it through the power band... While you are spooling up, a nitrous setup car is going to jump out on you. All else being equal (peak power numbers, suspension, tires, etc.) a nitrous car is going to go faster because the torque curve isn't going to look like mt. Everest.

Not true enless you have a nanno system it is going to fall through the rpm band. It might not fall crazy low but it still drops especially tq. No matter how you look at it turbo is prob the best setup but its not a budget mod.

[406malibu]

True, turbo cars pull like a bat outa hell up top, which is why the majority of the 800+ hp cars are running boost rather than nitrous. But you don't always get the time to break boost, esp. if you're street racing. Nitrous, if the switch is on, you're gonna GO lol. They each have their pros/cons. Personally I'd like to have a turbo setup, but for the price, I'd rather just suck it up and spray.

[Diggler]

nitrous delivers a certain amount of torque for a given shot, so to speak... and that amount will not change throughout the rpm range. (such as a supercharger, which builds boost with rpm) the orifice size in the jets cant change their sizes/flow.
.....but thats why there is multiple stages of nitrous.

[NEMESISVETTE]

Reading post #1 givin the Poster and then reading The last few post and where this thread is heading.... I have come to the conclusion that this thread is Stupid with a dash of RETARD.

[DTSVT03]

Reading post #1 givin the Poster and then reading The last few post and where this thread is heading.... I have come to the conclusion that this thread is Stupid with a dash of RETARD.


:timeout: you :screwy: or I will :twak: lol

[CCWC5]

^^^^i agree with him...

[MrDavid]

I like boost u like nitrous ok cool with me

If you read a little more closely, you will see that my car is boosted also. I was just explaining all the benefits of nitrous on an 8 cylinder engine.




My turbo setup makes 590hp and 620tq, so that throws the whole nitrous makes tq statement out the window. Still love ya David lol

How's that? I never said a turbo doesn't make TQ like nitrous did I? What I said earlier was referring to nitrous on a I4, not a V8. They just won't make the TQ like a V8, especially a V8 with spray. And like Dig said, the TQ is instant as opposed to waiting on boost to come in.

My old cam only car made 550hp 620tq on spray, so pull that statement back from the window you just threw it out of, LOL.

[DTSVT03]

I vote for a 331 stroker with a single 76gts! Use a stock 302 block with stud and valley girdles. That should put you well over 800hp depending on h/c/i.

My turbo setup makes 590hp and 620tq, so that throws the whole nitrous makes more tq than hp statement out the window. Still love ya David lol


FIX.T

Here ya go David, this is what I meant to put, but I was typing on the iphone while on my lunch break. Distracted by food

[Diggler]

just to add..... you CAN use a single stage of nitrous to equal the hp of a huge turbo, but the lower rpm torque spike would be so massive the engine probably wont be able to handle it. think of it as slamming the engine with 30# of boost instantly at 3k rpms.

[TurboLSX]

just to add..... you CAN use a single stage of nitrous to equal the hp of a huge turbo, but the lower rpm torque spike would be so massive the engine probably wont be able to handle it. think of it as slamming the engine with 30# of boost instantly at 3k rpms.

bingo

[KUTTER]

Reading post #1 givin the Poster and then reading The last few post and where this thread is heading.... I have come to the conclusion that this thread is Stupid with a dash of RETARD.

LoL!

[Nauty99SS]

Don't matter the build won't happen.

i'm with this guy

[The Parking Lot Announcer]

has anyone heard turning the 5.0 pistons around makes more power? And i found a single turbo kit for the foxbody it comes with the hot and cold piping bov wastegate intercooler and 76 mm turbo for right around 1500

[DC2Misfit]

I say u just sell the 5.0 and do the wagavan!!!!!!!!!!

[Diggler]

has anyone heard turning the 5.0 pistons around makes more power?
worth at least 100 rwhp.

[The Parking Lot Announcer]

i heard about 80 but you get a little piston slap how well does it last

[axistang]

has anyone heard turning the 5.0 pistons around makes more power? And i found a single turbo kit for the foxbody it comes with the hot and cold piping bov wastegate intercooler and 76 mm turbo for right around 1500

guy that bought my car swapped the novi 2000 for a boost brothers 67mm.
went from 493/439 on 10psi to 530/530 on 15psi. afr 185s, systemax. i think a custom cam would have picked it up a few hp over the alphabet cam but now he is parting out the whole setup to go bigger.

[Coppertop8705]

build a motor combo thatll handle 8500rpm and turbos on top of that

[SlowOhFoh]

build a motor combo thatll handle 8500rpm and turbos on top of that

thats what i posted

[Coppertop8705]

^^ what he said...

[91SILVERFOX]

thats what i posted

if you rev a 358 mod motor that high its not gonna last long with that 4.165 stroke

[1997b4c]

i heard about 80 but you get a little piston slap how well does it last
Please someone tell me this is a joke.

[crumbie]

The post, this thread, or this board? LOL

[TurboLSX]

crumbies a joke.

[1997b4c]

The post, this thread, or this board? LOL
I'm gonna go with D all the above

[KUTTER]

I'm gonna go with D all the above

E =imaginary builds

[1997b4c]

E is. Eeeeeeeeven better lmao