getting tuned today

[punisher]

well been trying to get the camaro tuned last month cant seem to get it tuned, looks like problem reading obd1 with obd2 port, she will be on the dyno today hoping for good results and #s.

[NEMESISVETTE]

So Shon Heroin couldnt tune a LT1?

[KUTTER]

Hope turns out well, know youve waited long enough. Deserve good results. I still guess 363

So Shon Heroin couldnt tune a LT1?
damn 95s tricky. OBD1 with OBD2 port.

[punisher]

he couldnt log into my pcm bc i have a obd1 with obd2, wasnt anything on his part think something with my port. i hope mark can data log it.

[TurboLSX]

good luck alex let me know if you need any help or anything

[punisher]

thanks chris..

[The EnforceR]

so howd the dyno session go?

[punisher]

I'm not sure mark still has her, he told me to call him yesterday around 4, I called no answer, I ain't gonna complain gave me a good price.

[NEMESISVETTE]

This guy may like LT1 Camaros too, No worries he cant get to far with it. It is a opti LT1 after all.
http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk433/NEMESISFRC/gfx.jpg

[MIKE02TA]

Gary that's messed up man haha

[punisher]

He's right lt1 are a pain in the ass but I can't complain when there running good

[mrlittle]

let me know when you get it back. marks supposed to be tuning mine but he told me a little diff price...you give him something "special" to get that price?

[punisher]

Ur price prob will be diffrent bc u have an ls1. Ill let u know when I get it back.

[punisher]

good news mark got it working he said it was a pain in the ass to get it to read but he got it will be ready tomorrow. ill find out my #s off the bottle later.

[justins99ss]

its later wats the numbers???

[NEMESISVETTE]

its later wats the numbers???

+1:nerd:

[KUTTER]

363 on 75 shot

[punisher]

Scott ur a dick lol he's still messing with it ill know tomorrow, he had a hard time reading the pcm.

[KUTTER]

I was just tryin help your hustle :no teeth:

[mrlittle]

alex i go with bout 347 but i still wanna know why so cheap. hit me up when you go tho. getting new tread for the gto tom so smoking off the old tires bout 11am.

[Herron Performance]

be around 320-330 probably and there is no VIN license to purchase so that knocks $100 off the overhead cost compared to the LSx where he has to purchase the VIN.

Glad Mark is able to help the LT1 out and an incredible price.

[punisher]

eric, im heading up there this afternoon if u wanna meet me in greer. car should be ready. im hoping 340+ 125 shot.

[NEMESISVETTE]

#'s?

[KUTTER]

you can know alex's life story from glancing at his myspace.. I swear everything, like twitter gps... Car not done, he waiting on the call

[sepno77]

#'s are up^_^

[NEMESISVETTE]

What size shot?

[MrDavid]

40 more HP than TQ on spray? Guess that exhaust is a little too open. Good HP numbers though.

[NEMESISVETTE]

Thats no LT1 dyno graph. Alex swap a LS1?

[Herron Performance]

Who is todd with a C5 H/C?

[NEMESISVETTE]

Who is todd with a C5 H/C?

Exactly? Looks like todds dyno graph (rmtt on or site).

[MrDavid]

Yep, I recall now that those were Todd's numbers. Good eye.

[Herron Performance]

on a LT1 that would be a 175 shot, LOL

[NEMESISVETTE]

http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk433/NEMESISFRC/Todd20C520heads20cam20dyno.jpg

This is Todds dyno graph

[Herron Performance]

same file name as the one posted LMAO

[NEMESISVETTE]

This is alex dyno graph ???
http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk433/NEMESISFRC/fake.jpg

[KUTTER]

lol...you goonies

[MrDavid]

I see a strange resemblance....

[NEMESISVETTE]

Epic Fail. Todd sale his car to alex?

[MrDavid]

Doubtful. He just got finished with new rearend and a trans.

[KUTTER]

the horse still down in the stable...

[NEMESISVETTE]

I found real dyno graph


http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk433/NEMESISFRC/350zdyno-1.jpg

[Herron Performance]

I found real dyno graph
of a 350Z?

[sepno77]

hahahahaha LMAO got ya lol amost pissed myself laffing here at work!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NEMESISVETTE]

http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk433/NEMESISFRC/polar-bear-face-palm_thumbnail1.jpg

[sepno77]

its ok gary its not hard to admit that you were punk'd

[NEMESISVETTE]

I found real dyno graph


http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk433/NEMESISFRC/350zdyno-1.jpg

of a 350Z?

Am i the only one that thinks this dyno graph is funny? It looks like a PeeNAS

[KUTTER]

i dont see it....must just be you... Peenas on the brain much?

[Herron Performance]

It looks like a PeeNASaka a 350z

[NEMESISVETTE]

i dont see it....must just be you... Peenas on the brain much?

Peenas on yo lip much? Now I know how you broke that front tooth :no teeth:

[KUTTER]

You are impatient week my azz. Friday afternoon to tuesday? Tried tell 'em your lifespace clearly stated you still waitin on call..But nobody believed me

[NEMESISVETTE]

Everytime a LS1 steps inda door they boot the LT's to bottom list. Tisk Tisk raciest.

[sepno77]

Lmfao....... I was wondering why a couple ppl texted me about my #s, jony that was good lol. Car is hasn't got done said he had a car a head of me this after noon so I was next. Starting to get impatient been almost a week.

holly shit you even got a bunch of txt msgs LMFAO now I really need to get up and take a piss lol hahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NEMESISVETTE]

holly shit you even got a bunch of txt msgs LMFAO now I really need to get up and take a piss lol hahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq150/emmatator/funny-baby-pee.jpg

[KUTTER]

lmmfao

[punisher]

Lmmfao...... yup thats jony lol

[sepno77]

hahaha thats some good ass aiming for a baby!!!

[punisher]

nothing yet

[Stable]

check your e-mail................

[punisher]

email????

[Stable]

otherwise....call me

[punisher]

otherwise....call me

k

[Herron Performance]

40 more than when it arrived?

[punisher]

40 more than when it arrived?

we will see im getting ready to call mark hope its good news.

[rmtt]

Doubtful. He just got finished with new rearend and a trans.

I still have it. :) Just haven't had the time to drive it or even get on the site much with everything going on at work. We have been pulling some 18-20 hr days, and it's starting to take it's toll on me.

But I can't complain, I'm just thankful to have a job.

[rmtt]

we will see im getting ready to call mark hope its good news.

Hope everything goes well for you!!

[sepno77]

I still have it. :) Just haven't had the time to drive it or even get on the site much with everything going on at work. We have been pulling some 18-20 hr days, and it's starting to take it's toll on me.

But I can't complain, I'm just thankful to have a job.

DAM!!!! 18-20 hr work days. thats CRaZy!!!

[KUTTER]

Yeah that sucks... Bout as bad as 6 days for 40 hours lol

[02ws6NBM]

I still have it. :) Just haven't had the time to drive it or even get on the site much with everything going on at work. We have been pulling some 18-20 hr days, and it's starting to take it's toll on me.

But I can't complain, I'm just thankful to have a job.

and what do you do? i remember you're EE but where do you work?

[punisher]

Ok just picked her up wasn't to happy with the results, I would have hit 335 hp but kept falling on its face, looks to be the val springs, so ill be shopping 4 better ones tonite, these are garbage. But the dyno did show me that I wasn't done with the bugs so I'm still not 100% but she got 40 hp with the tune.

[rmtt]

and what do you do? i remember you're EE but where do you work?

I work in Wellford off of Hwy 29 in the old Sybron/Lanxess Chemical plant. Most of the work I do consists of controls and automation. I usually work with a Chemical Engineer who tells me what he wants a process to do, and I spec out all of the controls, do the programming, tie it into any existing network, and then help start-up the process.

Except for the last few weeks where I was brought into a job that had no prior planning except for the "seat of the pants" kind. That is when it's a pain. The people I'm working with don't have a clear idea of what they really want, and a lot of the stuff they have me doing is trial and error. But they are customers, and you have to do what you have to do.

[rmtt]

Ok just picked her up wasn't to happy with the results, I would have hit 335 hp but kept falling on its face, looks to be the val springs, so ill be shopping 4 better ones tonite, these are garbage. But the dyno did show me that I wasn't done with the bugs so I'm still not 100% but she got 40 hp with the tune.

Sorry I went off track in your thread. I'm sure that you will get everything worked out.

[Herron Performance]

what springs you got on there now?
Ok just picked her up wasn't to happy with the results, I would have hit 335 hp but kept falling on its face, looks to be the val springs, so ill be shopping 4 better ones tonite, these are garbage. But the dyno did show me that I wasn't done with the bugs so I'm still not 100% but she got 40 hp with the tune.

[Diggler]

I work in Wellford off of Hwy 29 in the old Sybron/Lanxess Chemical plant. Most of the work I do consists of controls and automation. I usually work with a Chemical Engineer who tells me what he wants a process to do, and I spec out all of the controls, do the programming, tie it into any existing network, and then help start-up the process.

Except for the last few weeks where I was brought into a job that had no prior planning except for the "seat of the pants" kind. That is when it's a pain. The people I'm working with don't have a clear idea of what they really want, and a lot of the stuff they have me doing is trial and error. But they are customers, and you have to do what you have to do.

no kiddin'? moms worked there several years ago in the "lab" i think... i think she took samples of chemicals and figured out what needed to be added to them to adjust the final result. -or something like that.
sounds like the mngmt has not changed much in terms of flying by the seat of their pants.

[rmtt]

no kiddin'? moms worked there several years ago in the "lab" i think... i think she took samples of chemicals and figured out what needed to be added to them to adjust the final result. -or something like that.
sounds like the mngmt has not changed much in terms of flying by the seat of their pants.

I have only been there a little over a year. Apparantly management changed about a year before I came in.

It's sad to say, but about the only time I have ever been involved in anything "planned" was in completely new installations right after plant construction. The current issues I have been dealing with have been a new customer that is trying something they haven't tried before.

[rmtt]

Ok just picked her up wasn't to happy with the results, I would have hit 335 hp but kept falling on its face, looks to be the val springs, so ill be shopping 4 better ones tonite, these are garbage. But the dyno did show me that I wasn't done with the bugs so I'm still not 100% but she got 40 hp with the tune.

That's a nice jump in itself.

[The EnforceR]

I have only been there a little over a year. Apparantly management changed about a year before I came in.

It's sad to say, but about the only time I have ever been involved in anything "planned" was in completely new installations right after plant construction. The current issues I have been dealing with have been a new customer that is trying something they haven't tried before.

that the place near the skrip club and the lumber place? if so, i drive by it everyday....ant it STANKS.

[punisher]

I don't remember what kind they were but ill be doing some research, I made great power at 4500 rpm then falls. So I know once new spring are in I should make 340 or so.

[rmtt]

that the place near the skrip club and the lumber place? if so, i drive by it everyday....ant it STANKS.

That be the place. All of us have a multitude of air freshners in our offices! :)

[Diggler]

I don't remember what kind they were but ill be doing some research, I made great power at 4500 rpm then falls. So I know once new spring are in I should make 340 or so.

does it drop like a rock at 4500? thats pretty low to be floating the valves..... whats the specs on the cam/springs and were the heads worked on any? stock valves?

[KUTTER]

Like Rosie Odonnel if her parachute stuck... Its a cc503,1.6rr,stock heads, pretty positive stock valves also. Sure Him or Jonny chime in,Im just bored shooting at clock at work

[punisher]

Dies on its face at 4500 rpm, mark says its the springs. Ill get the name of the springs and post it

[punisher]

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-5792/


this is the website link to summit showing the springs i have now.

[comptaclone]

i have a set of new 918s that i cant use with seats, locks and retainers pm me

[punisher]

Pm sent

[Herron Performance]

Those edl springs should not have been used on that cam.
if you can get the 918s and locks/retainers/seats that is what I would go with, if you want to purchase new they can be sent to you for $330.

[punisher]

i found the ones i want there 177.00 CRANE CAMS 10308-1 comes with everything, these are the ones that sepno has which were the ones that i had bought then sent them back bc summit told me these would work which i had a feeling they wouldnt, im going to get with bj work something out i wanna have them on for this weekend.

[sepno77]

i found the ones i want there 177.00 CRANE CAMS 10308-1 comes with everything, these are the ones that sepno has which were the ones that i had bought then sent them back bc summit told me these would work which i had a feeling they wouldnt, im going to get with bj work something out i wanna have them on for this weekend.

mine were actully 166.00. id get the beehive 918's from bj if he gives u a good deal on some used valve springs as long as they are in perfect working order that is.

[punisher]

mine were actully 166.00. id get the beehive 918's from bj if he gives u a good deal on some used valve springs as long as they are in perfect working order that is.

im sure they are in good cond its coming from bj, if bj give me a good deal ill get them from him. save me the shipping time. GOD this is going to suck doing this again.

[Herron Performance]

If you find those Cranes better call the place and make them put their hands on them, they are no longer being made, Summit does not even have them nor does my supplier.

And the price of $330 is shipped for new units (918/locks/locaters/retainers).

[Herron Performance]

i wanna have them on for this weekend.and why does everything have to be done right now? why not take the time and make sure it is done right rather than just put together hoping it is right?

BTW-I hope BJ has everything you need if it has to be done this weekend b/c we are on a holiday schedule, therefore not much is going to be shipping monday....

[punisher]

and why does everything have to be done right now? why not take the time and make sure it is done right rather than just put together hoping it is right?

BTW-I hope BJ has everything you need if it has to be done this weekend b/c we are on a holiday schedule, therefore not much is going to be shipping monday....

i plan on taking my time on it, and its a long weekend so be a good time to do them. if it doesnt work out then i aint really in a rush. im just glad the car is tuned

[sepno77]

If you find those Cranes better call the place and make them put their hands on them, they are no longer being made, Summit does not even have them nor does my supplier.

And the price of $330 is shipped for new units (918/locks/locaters/retainers).

From what I heard is Crane filled Bankruptcy. Rob from AI told me they even having alot of trouble finding Cores for there cams do to the low supply of cams sence they use Crane Cam Cores. There are still companys out there that have a few springs in stock.

[SlowOhFoh]

Crane has been gone for about 6 months now... and i was under the impression that AI used Bullet to make their cams.

[punisher]

i just found a dealer that is selling Crane springs im lookin for, for 166.00 comes with everything looks to limited only has one set left. waiting on bj b4 i buy em.

[sepno77]

Crane has been gone for about 6 months now... and i was under the impression that AI used Bullet to make their cams.

I bought my cam in June and took about 1.5 weeks to get it. I'm sure they use Bullet cams but they buy the cores from different vendors and crane cams was one of there big ones he told me.

[punisher]

jony....i have to pull the rr off and i dont have the tool to set them, advance carry that tool??? forgot what its called

[sepno77]

jony....i have to pull the rr off and i dont have the tool to set them, advance carry that tool??? forgot what its called

IDK i didn't use any tool to set mine and I set it w/ the intake off so it was easy cause I could visualy see the lifters that were at the bottom and work on those.

[Diggler]

this is not a fun job. you need to be SURE you are getting enough spring for that cam.
oh, and if you made 340 at 4500 thats not bad at all!

[punisher]

No I made 275 at 4000 then falls, chart shows it looks like at 6000 would have hit 335 around that.

[Diggler]

No I made 275 at 4000 then falls, chart shows it looks like at 6000 would have hit 335 around that.
oooh ok i was thinking you were going to make some pretty crazy power once you could turn it 6k+ if you were already making 340 by 4500.... but that explains it.

[punisher]

I think ill make 340 345 once I change this springs out tomorrow, I think these springs are killing a lot of power.

[punisher]

Thanks to bj got new springs, spent 10 hrs changing them car results still the same. With changing the springs still no power after 4500 rpm

[Nauty99SS]

should have swapped out to a LS1



sounds like the tune

[punisher]

That's what I keep hearing, tune..

[bags50lx]

Can you post the graph? I would like to see graph before you blame it on the tune.

[punisher]

I don't have the graph, I wouldn't say I blame it on the tune, just trying to figure out why a cam lt1 is making a little more then a stock lt1. On the chart shows the car making 275 at 4500 rpm then falls on her face after 4500 she's making 189 hp. Mark said that the val springs were weak. But I just put in the right val springs problem is still the same not pulling after 4500 rpm.

[comptaclone]

how did they tune the car after 4500? Im not saying thats the problem but if the car was messing up before how would he have know what it needed after 4500. Like Bags said, the graph would probably help show some of the problem.

[punisher]

Going to call him tues and drop it off again seems like I'm not getting fuel up top

[Nauty99SS]

you were driving before you dropped it off for the tune right ? .. was it dropping in power after 4500 before it was tuned ? as i recall you said it pulled pretty good but did need a tune ... three things i can think of that that would cause you to not get fuel ... pump , computer ( tune ) or filter ... not saying it's tune ... was the cam degreed properly ? is the " timing " off in some way maybe ? just throwning some things out there ...

[punisher]

Car is popping and has flames coming from the exhaust

[KUTTER]

When in doubt,blame the opti

As said though,graph tell bit. My logic would be this though.. Car was tuned around found issues. Even by correcting issues, pcm still programmed around previous handicap. I mean pcms can relearn so much its said. But springs pretty far from a "electrical" part,not exactly sensors in that area for it pcm attempt correct issue.

Just a thought tho. Hope you get it straight man

Did you ever nail down what caused those issues before tune? Whole trying to bog down at stop? You having cut it off then back on,on highway? Did it still smoke on throttle after this tune?

[NEMESISVETTE]

Car is popping and has flames coming from the exhaust
hell ya ! badass!

[bags50lx]

Car is popping and has flames coming from the exhaust

Does it flame like the KIA?

[punisher]

Everything was fixed b4 I took it to him, other then val springd which were fixed yesterday. And no its popping. Shots a small flame sounds like timing

[NEMESISVETTE]

Does it flame like the KIA?
is it as flaming ___ as this guy? lmao

[punisher]

Lol, gary ur gay lol

[Herron Performance]

I do not want to step on toes here but if the car was falling on its face at 4500 then mark shut it down and did not more tuning after that, and that is the right way to do it.
It needs to go back to Mark and let him finish and if the springs did not fix it then there are other problems....obviously.
And I am not sure WTH is up with that car but from what I was told it was over 20% lean from when Mark got it, that is ALOT so my guess is that it is still way OFF above the 4500 mark...

[punisher]

I do not want to step on toes here but if the car was falling on its face at 4500 then mark shut it down and did not more tuning after that, and that is the right way to do it.
It needs to go back to Mark and let him finish and if the springs did not fix it then there are other problems....obviously.
And I am not sure WTH is up with that car but from what I was told it was over 20% lean from when Mark got it, that is ALOT so my guess is that it is still way OFF above the 4500 mark...


Right, the car is still lean, and doesn't seem to be getting fuel up top. I'm not saying anything bad about his tune I'm just worried it could be something else he said after the valve springs were on I should make good power but results are same that's why I was worried it could be something else. I'm going to drop it off again. This week.