Project Phat Boy

[BluByU383]

Im starting a new project.......I want some ideas on the paint color and scheme. It's a 4th gen Camaro (conv) with a wide body kit.

Send some pics of great looking Camaro's.

Its a roller right now.........hoping to complete by spring 2010.

I'll disclose more details as the thread develops.......drive train etc.

If someone is good with photoshop......i'd like to experiment with colors....wheels etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

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post a pic that wide body maro, get our imaginations going

[RamAirGod]

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well im thinking some kind of 2 tone...its not something you see everyday and it looks real good when the 2 colors match

[KUTTER]

+1 on 2 tone always been fan of it but everyone said wouldnt look right because of curves on fbody..

[RamAirGod]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/jj_z28/2tone3.jpg
Doesnt have to be this colored green but you get the idea
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[The EnforceR]

i really liked what we talked about a few weeks back. brandywine accented with gunmetal, but i think the lighter color with metallic or pearls will really e best for it since these colors will show the curves better!

[KUTTER]

wtf kyle lol. werent you also one that said 2 tone look like ish? It was thread you talking about getting black hood or something might been someone else but thought it was you also

[NEMESISVETTE]

My .02 is that any car that has dramatic body lines like this widebody Fbody will have needs a Silver. Silver is not a true paint, but rather a combination of clear coat and flake. Silver will shadow with body changes and make them POP. What ever you decide Terry I know its going to be BadA$$ just like all your other rides. Keep us up to date.

[Ms. Enforcer]

LOL ^^^^ he did, i hate the idea of two tone period...i think (esp. with that green and orange) that it looks like an import japanese cartoon car

[KUTTER]

thought so lol... I think that silver and black top be pretty jazzy

[The EnforceR]

wtf kyle lol. werent you also one that said 2 tone look like ish? It was thread you talking about getting black hood or something might been someone else but thought it was you also

no two tone looks good if its done correctly, but i just think with the curves this car is gonna have, a two-toned paint will take away from the body curves. check this out terry, tons of cool colors in here.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/paint-body-work/529418-custom-paint-color-f-body-post.html

one thing tho...i think the car MUST have a sunoco hood, and also find some way to mold the RS spoiler to the car. shaved handles, shaved antennae, removed side moldings, shaved rear panel, shaved nose badge area, gotta go ALL OUT!

[Ms. Enforcer]

hey terry since you are starting a new car can i have ur vette? :-)

[BluByU383]

Good pics.....I'll get some pics of the body ......don't have any yet. You guys are right on target with to tone. That was my initial thought....silver and gun metal gray.....separated by white or black stripe. Gunmetal five spokes.

That all changed when I saw a car painted 'house of kolors" brandywine.


I thought about gunmetal hockey stripes......oh it has a 3" high rise hood....gunmetal stripes on the rise. Gunmetal wheels

Grey conv top......like the C6 grey top.......gery leather interior

But I haven't locked in on anything at this point.

[BluByU383]

Ms Enforcer........the vette not done..........engine bay dress up will be done in about two weeks.........custom paint etc......I guess you want me to finish first?

[Ms. Enforcer]

please :-)

[NEMESISVETTE]

Ms Enforcer........I guess you want me to finish first?

please :-)

Wow that just sounded Dirty

[BluByU383]

Hey Kyle.......shaved nose badge and shaved door handles....... done

All the seams in the engine bay are being welded and smoothed.

Going for clean and simple.....like a 1st gen.

I like the way you think!!!!!!!

[The EnforceR]

Going for clean and simple.....

perfect, thats how i think with mine. hide everything you can under the hood. a car of this cailber needs somethin more than just polished covers on everything. it looks good, but not for this one! think of the engine bay on the silver zues formula. less is more! relocate battery, fuses boxes, get rid of the heater core (who needs that in the summer, a conv. is a summer car!). i think if you thought it out you could hide the a/c stuff too, just a matter of finding longer hoses that will attach to the condensor. i almost had tthis done on my car, all it needs is one hose to be a little longer.

[snowman03gt]

Ms Enforcer........the vette not done..........engine bay dress up will be done in about two weeks.........custom paint etc......I guess you want me to finish first?

:rrofl::lame::twak::wtf:

[Ms. Enforcer]

where's gary for the perverted comment on kyles last post..?

[Ms. Enforcer]

doug ya got an excess of smileys...im a lil confused on if you're mad or confused or upset or laughing

[BluByU383]

Kyle......keep it coming.....I kno the Zues car......that's what Im after

Battery in the back was in the plan......hind everthing.

This needs to be a "cover" project ......

BLOWN 427.....LS7.......is a real possiblity

[snowman03gt]

doug ya got an excess of smileys...im a lil confused on if you're mad or confused or upset or laughing

u must fig it out for yourself and why dont u come with kyle on sunday nights:think:

[Ms. Enforcer]

let's keep this on topic for terry...more ideas kyle! :0)

[snowman03gt]

Kyle......keep it coming.....I kno the Zues car......that's what Im after

Battery in the back was in the plan......hind everthing.

This needs to be a "cover" project ......

BLOWN 427.....LS7.......is a real possiblity

terry r u ok :wtf:

[The EnforceR]

i would do a low compresssion LSX 454 with a maggie on it, or either a high compression big inch LS that sounds like popcorn!!!!!

[SlowOhFoh]

low compression is for losers... 10.5:1 454 LS motor with a pair of T66's hanging off of it... you cant run retarded boost but you wont need to...

[snowman03gt]

i sounds like popcorn!!!!!

:lame:

[The EnforceR]

doug you really, realllly confuse me with your posts. lets give terry his thread back?

[snowman03gt]

ok

[KUTTER]

posts = SIMPLE.... big crayon simple

[02ws6NBM]

something you have to think about with the two tone paint is matching the conv. top with the color that is on the top half of the car. i think you would be better off giving it a nice base color and accent it with some type of stripe (hockey, manta, etc.) no offense to anyone, but i'm not a fan of silver, a little boring to me. a nice candy or some other type of metallic color would look good. throw on some forgeline wheels or some other type of expensive forged wheels, maybe painted the same as the accent stripe (in this case a metallic color would enhance the styling of the wheel when painted). gotta minitub the car so you can put some huge ass wheels and tires on the back. just a few ideas for ya, its not my money so coming up with ideas is easy.

[01BlackBird]

I really like the hockey stick idea terry! I think it looks good with the mock up taped off stripe on the side. the car def is gonna be an head turner. I think ccw, hre, fiske, iforged, or so on for the wheels in chrome with a real deep lip. and for the paint i have in my mind some kind of candy color green for some reason, it would be different and get alot of attention. but when it comes down to it its your car and you need to build it to make you happy and what you will love every time you look at it. I figure there will prob be a big cube lsx motor of some type in it or maybe a turbo motor?

[2001z]

I like the sound of when someone says about throwing a ls7 or a 454 under the hood. Whatever you do please document and send some pics our way :)

[BluByU383]

Great ideas guys........

No mini tub tho......I ordered a Ford 9" norrowed 3"....with the wide body I've mocked up a 12" wheel for the rear and a 335 tire should fit w/o tubing

Wheels.......I have been on a dozen wheel sites.....leaning toward Boze 3 pc
I have Boze's on my vette and Formula....they're awesome.

Check out www.bozeforged.com

Give me your feedback on ......FORCE, BOOST, MESH type wheel
planning on painted centers to match hockey strip/graphics

[The EnforceR]

http://www.bozeforged.com/force.html

i like this wheel, and painted the dark areas to match your accent color!

[BluByU383]

Kyle....what about this?

FORCE wheel..........inner slots gunmetal....raised areas around slots silver or different shade........BIG A$$.....chrome lip

[02ws6NBM]

i like the ze forged TACH wheel.

[BluByU383]

Yep...I like the TACH wheel too......that's what's on my yellow Z06.

I think I need a "beefer" looking wheel for the phat boy........will make it look more aggressive.

Between the other three choices.....which would you vote for?

FORCE, BOOST, MESH

[01BlackBird]

MESH will def look the best on a wide body camaro

[snowman03gt]

http://www.bozeforged.com/force.html

i like this wheel, and painted the dark areas to match your accent color!

me too i like theses:thumbs up:

[02ws6NBM]

i vote boost, mesh, force in that order. to me the force wheel looks too much like a hot rod wheel, you know, something that should be on a 1st or 2nd gen camaro. i think something a little more classy looking should go on the wide body. i would definately stay with the ze forged wheels, and not go with any of the boze wheels.

[BluByU383]

post a pic that wide body maro, get our imaginations going

Here's another onehttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/Phatboy2.jpg

[BluByU383]

post a pic that wide body maro, get our imaginations going

Phat Boy

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/Phatboy3.jpg

[BluByU383]

i vote boost, mesh, force in that order. to me the force wheel looks too much like a hot rod wheel, you know, something that should be on a 1st or 2nd gen camaro. i think something a little more classy looking should go on the wide body. i would definately stay with the ze forged wheels, and not go with any of the boze wheels.

I was leaning toward the BOOST myself.

[01BlackBird]

Mesh ftw

[KUTTER]

awwwww , ish looks gutted.. roll bar CHECK, handles gone CHECK... Boost, mesh, both sound like weeeners to me. From the looks of the vette you got good taste. I like the idea of the 2 tone but think a lip compliment it better than SS wing, or the viper steel gray on a widebody SS wing be DEAD SEXY

[01BlackBird]

bright candy green for the car with a black hockey stripe and mesh wheels. lol i am thinking unique headturner, something that hasnt been done

[Nauty99SS]

i'm liking the green idea , just not bright , but i'm thinking a dark gray h/s

[BluByU383]

Phat Boy

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/Phatboy3.jpg

Does anybody know what this original color.....burgandy...whatever is called?

[BluByU383]

I like the sound of when someone says about throwing a ls7 or a 454 under the hood. Whatever you do please document and send some pics our way :)

Anybody know where a good deal is on LSX? See anything on ls1tech?

What's going rate $$$$$ for LSX build?

[The EnforceR]

terry im starting to lean towards the mesh syle wheel now to tell ya the truth after seeing the car.

i still say stay with a light color to show off the curves. i know it may sound gay to some, but i think it can be pulled off. light light blue with a ton of fine metallic in it. not baby blue or tarheel blue, just a light sky blue, not the girly blue. i think gunmetal could compliment this color well if its the right shade.

im not so sure about the hockey stripe tho, they look great BUT you want this car to be unique and completely different than any other 4 gen out there, and i think hockey stripes are too common for this car. have some kinda stripe going down the side that resembles the dick harrell stripe, but not exactly, as you dont wanna copy that. have the stripe, cage, and wheel mesh pattern done in gunmetal.

[BluByU383]

terry im starting to lean towards the mesh syle wheel now to tell ya the truth after seeing the car.

i still say stay with a light color to show off the curves. i know it may sound gay to some, but i think it can be pulled off. light light blue with a ton of fine metallic in it. not baby blue or tarheel blue, just a light sky blue, not the girly blue. i think gunmetal could compliment this color well if its the right shade.

im not so sure about the hockey stripe tho, they look great BUT you want this car to be unique and completely different than any other 4 gen out there, and i think hockey stripes are too common for this car. have some kinda stripe going down the side that resembles the dick harrell stripe, but not exactly, as you dont wanna copy that. have the stripe, cage, and wheel mesh pattern done in gunmetal.

Kyle.......you're uncanny.......I thought about the tar heel blue with black graphics.......only problem.....I don't want black interior. I really think a high quality medium grey leather with the grey top..........is very unquie for a 4th gen.

Have you seen the grey on the C6?

As far as the strip...I actually have designed a Z28....similar to your new badge but incorporates a stripe....can't show you here but I plan to tape off several diff graphics.....I'll get you to come with me one day and we can experiment

[snowman03gt]

terry paint it GREEN

[The EnforceR]

i agree on the grey leather. black is too freakin hot and tan just doesnt look good in these cars. medium gray has a high end look to it.

[The EnforceR]

terry have you considered any BMW colors? they have tons of light blues and greens with metallic that would look hot paired with gunmetal or grey. heres a few of my favorites i found tongiht...

gray green...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/kyles2000z/bmw.jpg

steel blue...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/kyles2000z/bmw2.jpg

slate green... COLOR ON MONEEEEEY!!!!!...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/kyles2000z/bmw3slategreen.jpg

maldiver blue...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/kyles2000z/bmw4maldivesblue.jpg

[MrDavid]

All of those beamers look girly colored to me except the Z4 at the bottom. That color on a BA sportscar will take away a lot of the look of agressiveness

[The EnforceR]

i was just tryin picture somethin that wsant such a loud color like his other cars, and something that would be a good compliment for gunmetal. the color doesnt hafta be loud and proud to be nice lookin.....heck most of the cars that win the Riddler Award are light colors like this i thnk

[02ws6NBM]

i think its pretty official that kyle is gay. ha, i'm joking man. i think the graphite/charcoal metallic stripe should be used. i also think that some type of candy color should be used for the entire car. graphite or charcoal metallic (or whatever color grey you want to use) goes with a lot of colors. i cant see the pics of the car since i'm at work but i'm thinking you shuold try to do something with a retro feel like some type of modern yenko stripe. i've also seen a camaro done with a single wide stripe down the middle like a gs corvette that looked good. so many ideas and colors.

[BluByU383]

Nix......the blues.....I like them but already have an Electric Blue Formula.....as u kno.

Several people have mention green.......like frost green on the 2nd gen.

Different.......but not great w/ grey......and Im not sure if it would accent the wide body

Need more photo's of paint schemes........let em flo

[The EnforceR]

well are you wanting a loud in your face color, or a subtle color? the possibilities are endless. and are you for sure wanting gunmetal as you accent color???

[BluByU383]

well are you wanting a loud in your face color, or a subtle color? the possibilities are endless. and are you for sure wanting gunmetal as you accent color???

Well....I guess that's why I want to see as many photos as possible.....although the color needs to make a statement and coordinate w/ the interior. I have $500 worth of gunmetal powder........need I say more.

[The EnforceR]

terry, have you ever considered filling in and smoothing out the body line where the molding goes on the doors and fenders? i dont think ive ever seen it done on a 4th gen before, and not even sure if it would look right but its just a thought. this would mean you would probably need to mold the front bumper to the fenders and the rear bumper cover to the quarters as well so the whole car would have that line absent........just somethin to think about?

also about the color...i was looking at paint sample online, and i think dark candy or pearl red would be the BEST color to have accented by gunmetal, that will also show off the curves this thing has. maybe a few shades "redder" than the brandywine color you were thinkin about. its very notiable and will stick out in the crowd, and itll dance when the sun hits it!!!! also will go well with grey interior too.

[BluByU383]

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/Phatboy2.jpg

Kyles.....I don't know if I've ever seen a Camaro with seam filled end.......that's a lot of body width with no breakup.........I'll have to give that more thought.

On the color......I've been looking on LS1Tech Gallery......cars out the whazoo
.....but still haven't seen anything that blows me away. Now that the car show season is gearing up I'll be out with my camera looking for the right color.

kyle......thanks for all the feedback.......I know we'll come up with something.

I was playing golf when I looked down a the color of my shaft....that's how I picked the Electric Blue for the Formula.......so keep it coming.

[The EnforceR]

wow thats funny that you say that......bc when i was taking batting practice today before our game at gardner webb, i looked down at my batt at its the red pearl color im talkin about. and im dead serious about that too!!!!!!

[01BlackBird]

the candy hellfire color is pretty bad

[The EnforceR]

jay thats almost EXACTLY the color i saw today on my bat! looks like a regular ole red/burgundy until light hits it, then it means BUSINESS!!!

terry your color has been found, look no further!!!!
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/paint-body-work/681905-kandy-hellfire-ws6-build-thread.html

just gotta find someone that can shoot a candy this well!!!! i hear its the hardest paint to work with

[WhiteIrocZ]

Very sexy color that hellfire red is. I would like to see it intertwined with another color. What i wound not know with the crazy color.

[MrDavid]

Terry checking out his shaft, Kyle checking out his bat.....:confused: LOL

That Hellfire color is straight WIN. That looks awesome.

[BluByU383]

If you guys see any more cars painted HellFire Red send them my way. I got to pg 125 on Ls1Tech.....but got distracted by several bades huging their cars.........

some nice cars but nothing jumped off the page.

[BluByU383]

that was "BABES"

[The EnforceR]

are you open to anything.....candy, metallics, pearl, etc? just wondering if the guy painting your car has expereince with candy stuff.

[BluByU383]

are you open to anything.....candy, metallics, pearl, etc? just wondering if the guy painting your car has expereince with candy stuff.

My painter wants to avoid candy colors....metallics and pearls are good.
i'm suppose to go see him tomorrow to go look at some colors.

[The EnforceR]

aight cool! lean towards a burgundy that "pops"...

....the EnforceR has spoken

[BluByU383]

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2008carshows031.jpg

Ok...here the Brandywine color that I'm leaning toward......grey conv top with grey leather. What do think?

[snowman03gt]

i like that terry

[406malibu]

I love that color combination. Grey top and interior would look great with that color.

[The EnforceR]

YES. do it. thats the best lookin color for your car other than the candies, which you said you were staying away from.

[406malibu]

YES. do it. thats the best lookin color for your car other than the cadies, which you said you were staying away from.

i agree, with only one exception. I saw a orange tangelo pearl that was absolutely beautiful. It wasn't so bright that it knocked ya off your feet, but at the same time it really poped.

[The EnforceR]

tangelo pearl looks good but its real played out in the car show scene. i guess its for a reason tho, it does look good. ive only seen one 4th gen painted that color tho, and it was one of the dick harrell cars.

[BluByU383]

I like the color.....but orange has been done to death. Also.....orange with grey top/interior won't cut it.....and I don't want black.

I'm set on the grey top/interior.......got to set a new standard......be different.

[SlowOhFoh]

how about satin black with gloss black accents...

or white with pearlecent ghost flames...

[01BlackBird]

how about satin black with gloss black accents...

or white with pearlecent ghost flames...

or how about NOT!!!!!!

[BluByU383]

how about satin black with gloss black accents...

or white with pearlecent ghost flames...

well........white was an option......where do you think the ghost flames would look best??

can't do black......I'm not Nemmis enough....I'll leave that to Gary......black is way to much work for me.

That's the best feature of white.......you can get away with small imperfections...swirl marks etc.

[SlowOhFoh]

let the painter go nuts... ghost flames are cool anywhere...


as for the swirl marks, thats why i said SATIN black... not gloss...

[BluByU383]

let the painter go nuts... ghost flames are cool anywhere...


as for the swirl marks, thats why i said SATIN black... not gloss...

Itn't satin black porn to showing water spots? I thought about a blacked out hood or just the rise blacked out.

[NEMESISVETTE]

Itn't satin black porn to showing water spots? I thought about a blacked out hood or just the rise blacked out.

Black Porn :think:

[01BlackBird]

this isnt a rat rod or a race car so it doesnt need to be satin or flat black! Ghost flames are cool but are played out now, a few years ago everyone was doin ghost flames. this car needs to be a head turner in every way, that means you need a paint job that is going to pop, and pull in that second look.

[BluByU383]

Black Porn :think:

what's wrong you don't get my humor????

pron....porn....what's the difference....I guess my mind was still in the strip club thread

[BluByU383]

this isnt a rat rod or a race car so it doesnt need to be satin or flat black! Ghost flames are cool but are played out now, a few years ago everyone was doin ghost flames. this car needs to be a head turner in every way, that means you need a paint job that is going to pop, and pull in that second look.

On the money...I couldn't agree more.......I'll probably have $100k in this project.......so its go to be spot on.......even then...they'll be wouda couda feelings......I just want minimize them.

That's why...I ask you guys for your input.......even if your suggestions don't make to the final product.......it may open up new thinking and new ideas.

I really appreciate ALL the input.......thanks

[2001z]

$100k :eek:

[MrDavid]

If you want to pull everyones eyes to your car out of a parking lot full of Fbodies, then you're going to have to have the color of paint that is a real attention grabber. Darker colors don't really grab attention. The dark maroon color of the hotrod pictured several post ago is beautiful, but its not going to snag someones attention instantly out of a lineup.

[BluByU383]

example?????........hot pink?

[Nauty99SS]

my thoughts .. HOT PINK

[snowman03gt]

my thoughts .. HOT PINK

:think:

[MrDavid]

Something that would grab attention in a good way. I'd probably stay away from hot pink.

[The EnforceR]

Something that would grab attention in a good way. I'd probably stay away from hot pink.

david do you remember us talkin to Rick from amazon FOEVER the other summer at the forest city show? and remember seeing his wife's car (convertible i think) and how awesome that color was? thats brandywine buried in like 10 coats of clear, i think we were both jawdropped over it!

[01BlackBird]

surf blue pearl (i know you said no blue but its nice and different)
metallic 1957 chevy turqouis ( if pulled off correctly with accents would be nice)
house of kolor candy lime (i know you said no candy but it looked good)

i will hunt for more tomorrow i just think it should (it deserves) to be different and stand out

[MrDavid]

I don't remember that car Kyle. The only one I can recall now was the mach 1 with a 76mm GTS turbo that only made 460hp.

[BluByU383]

OK.......lets talk about sources for LSX short blocks

[01BlackBird]

use a sponsor i am sure Vengeance can build you a beast

[BluByU383]

use a sponsor i am sure Vengeance can build you a beast

What does the sponser require......ie do they get access to your car?

[Nauty99SS]

he's refering to the site sponsors .. like Bruce , he is a site sponsor

[BluByU383]

Gotcha.....Tim.....what do you think on the motor.....keeping in mind I want the engine bay clean and simple.

[Nauty99SS]

427 LSX big powa ... i'd get the 427 that we talked about the other day .. starting from scrtch you can hide most everything .. just plan ahead on where to put stuff .. like the battery , computer . coilpacks , etc.. you'll get lots of ideas at G13 also

[01BlackBird]

get a 454 LSX and let vengeance build it for you i know they can build you a big cube reliable beast

[The EnforceR]

i say do the 454 LSX, vic Jr style intake powdercoated gunmetal, nice lookin hat/elbow on top mated to a 90 or 100 mm TB, that looks sexy. polished shroud over the radiator and fans, find a cool lookin air intake setup to be a little different. possiblities are endless. you do hafta hide the battery, fuse boxes, coil packs, etc. nice fabricated valve covers with the welds exposed, all thats a must!!!

[BluByU383]

What do you know about Wilson billet intakes or Beck aluminun intakes?

with a butt load of nitrous

[The EnforceR]

yea the sheetmetal intakes are nice but DANG they are high!!!

[BluByU383]

yea the sheetmetal intakes are nice but DANG they are high!!!

yea......maybe with everything so slow....they'll drop their prices.
but they look cool.......not sure how they stack up on hp /tq

[The EnforceR]

on big cube motors they do well. i think the Vic Jr and 92/92 is the best "mid priced" intake out there

[01BlackBird]

for a big cube engine beck is the way to go (it will outperform the vic jr) also it will look great on that car for show

[SlowOhFoh]

if you're wanting to stand out from the crowd doing individual throttle bodies would be awesome... car would sound INSANE and if done right make some pretty crazy power.

[BluByU383]

for a big cube engine beck is the way to go (it will outperform the vic jr) also it will look great on that car for show

yea....Im feelin ya......thats what I want....show and go.
Big thunder from a big block....I thought just us old guys that that way.

[The EnforceR]

please dont put a big block on it! big inch LS!!!!!

[01BlackBird]

thats what he meant kyle

[BluByU383]

big cube LS or LSX fo sure
:alcohol:
meth...alcohol????

[WhiteIrocZ]

Are you planning on cutting the cowl/hood to accommodate any of these intakes?

[BluByU383]

Are you planning on cutting the cowl/hood to accommodate any of these intakes?

I dont think I'll need to......its got a high rise hood with wide body kit

[WhiteIrocZ]

Ryan had to cut his to fit the Vic Jr. with a 90mm accufab.

[Ryans_Pewter_SS]

You'll def. have to cut the cowl if u use a nice elbow on the single plane intake, and prob have to cut the hood also.

[BluByU383]

it'll probably never see the rain........so I will Chop Cut Rebuild as required.

[WhiteIrocZ]

If I had $100k in my car, it would never see daylight....nah, I'd still drive the shit out of it.

[BluByU383]

Believe me......I dont worry about racking up miles.....and I plan to play hard.....and still have a show quality ride......its a lot easier when its a weekend warrior.

[The EnforceR]

terry, ran across another color you be internetested in. similiar to brandywine in that it is dark blackish w/o direct light, and then comes to life and looks blood red in lighting. maybe with a little smaller flake it would look killer, this guy used to big of a flame in the paint IMO and it would probably dance too much. check it out. this will go good with gunmetal too! its called "dragons breath"

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/texas-classifieds/902751-wtt-custom-1999-transam.html

[BluByU383]

Yeah....really looks good in the light........wasn't impressed with it in the shade tho. The name of the color........sounds nemesis. Hey Gary if you ever decide to change colors.....this is you!!!!

:shock:

[NEMESISVETTE]

Yeah....really looks good in the light........wasn't impressed with it in the shade tho. The name of the color........sounds nemesis. Hey Gary if you ever decide to change colors.....this is you!!!!

:shock:

Do not like. Yuk. Looks good on that car but no way that will look good on a vette.

[Nauty99SS]

way to dark .. nice though

[RamAirGod]

way to dark .. nice though

racist sob

[BluByU383]

racist sob

I guess he's saying once you go black you don.t go back.....

:timeout:

[BluByU383]

Here's the wheel that I'm considering for the Phat Boy

19x 12's in back.......probably 18x10 in the front.

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/ForceWheel.gif

[Nauty99SS]

nice .

[rmtt]

As we talked about earlier, thsoe wheels are going to look NICE!!

[MrDavid]

You looking for 345's in the back?

[BluByU383]

You looking for 345's in the back?

We'll see.....335's for sure........goin to have a 6" lip in the back.....probably 3 or 4 in the front.

[The EnforceR]

rear lip so big, it looks like im gonna have a place to crawl up in and take a nap at shows!

[BluByU383]

rear lip so big, it looks like im gonna have a place to crawl up in and take a nap at shows!

Probably room for two......you and Ms Enforcer

[MrDavid]

Don't give Kyle any invitations. I vote get some 355's or larger!

[The EnforceR]

Don't give Kyle any invitations. I vote get some 355's or larger!

i invited myself

[BluByU383]

Next step on the Phat Boy Project. I have decided to have an animation rendering done of the wide body. I talked to a designer yesterday that does 3D modeling of concept cars / project cars.

Oddly enough he did a Dick Harrell wide body car for Berger Chevy way back in 2003.

Check out the gallery on his web site
www.carsbykris.com

[RamAirGod]

wow he does great work...

[rmtt]

wow he does great work...

+1

I can't wait to see what he does with your project!

[01BlackBird]

just call chip foose he makes some awsome designs lol

[snowman03gt]

just call chip foose he makes some awsome designs lol

u got his number:suspicious2:

[01BlackBird]

yes its is (373)ricestang-grocerycartwing

[snowman03gt]

yes its is (373)ricestang-grocerycartwing

u bitch :nutkick::twak::beating::wavefibger::wavefibger::w avefibger::wavefibger:

[BluByU383]

Here's the wheel that I'm considering for the Phat Boy

Alright...its time to finalize the wheel selection. Kyle ...I need some input on color etc.

I was thinking gun metal in the recessed area and a painted silver in the web area raised in the center of the wheel.....similar to the color of Tim's wheels.

The suspension parts have already been powder coated in gun metal gray.

All input welcome...



19x 12's in back.......probably 18x10 in the front.

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/ForceWheel.gif

See above new text

[The EnforceR]

yes, sounds prefect.....leave the lip chrome/polished whatever. i think the gunmetal/silver/dark metallic red will look awesome together, real subtle soft colors that arent too loud, it should have a real high-end look to it!

jon, can you hook papa T up with a photoshop of the wheel?

[KUTTER]

Im with Kyle wheel looks dead s3xy imo

[The EnforceR]

also, itd be awesome to have the contercaps etched with "Phat Boy" in a cool font that matches the car.

[rmtt]

also, itd be awesome to have the contercaps etched with "Phat Boy" in a cool font that matches the car.

That would look nice!

[NEMESISVETTE]

I really like the way the Gunmetal spokes lay out into the lip. Kinda reminds me of the old import rim-- Konig Trouble
http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk433/NEMESISFRC/konig_trouble_graphite_lg.jpg

[BluByU383]

Gary ..I saw a vette yesterday with a very similar wheel....looked real good.

[BluByU383]

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/WipplePb1.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/WipplePB2.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/Wipple3.jpg

Here are some pics of the Wipple on the 94 Camaro.....project Phatboy

[KUTTER]

EFFIN RAW!!!! very nice, thanks for sharing sneek peak

[keith_AE2010]

Berry nice.

[The EnforceR]

looks ready to eat small animals!

[2001z]

Insane! Cant wait to see it all done or when it gets painted!

[The EnforceR]

Are you planning on cutting the cowl/hood to accommodate any of these intakes?

I dont think I'll need to......its got a high rise hood with wide body kit

lol....slight change in plans huh!

[rmtt]

Holy Crap!!

That thing is biiger than the motor in my wife's scion!!

[blkstang]

nice!

[BluByU383]

lol....slight change in plans huh!

You could say that.....I thought it could be set forward more.......but oh well
chop, cut, whatever it takes.

[TurboLSX]

dang terry that is one big blower. pro mod style

[DTSVT03]

Those whipples are freaking huge! Some people are putting those in the Ford GT to replace the stock blower.

[WhiteIrocZ]

lol....slight change in plans huh!

I think he just took a little off the cowl, nothing major. LMAO.

[MrDavid]

Wow Terry. Torque anyone?

[ALS1Vette99]

The wipple is bad a$$. What about red and gunmetal for the paint.

[The EnforceR]

i think this car needs more than just red....its on everything you see. definate has to have metallic or pearl in it, and it needs to dance in the sunlight. red looks good, but this one needs a color you dont see everywher ei think

[BluByU383]

I'm having two spray out samples next week. Hopefully one of them will be "the" color.

Wheels will be in in two weeks.....making steady progress.

[BluByU383]

Suspension...air ride

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/PBairride.jpg

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/PBairride2.jpg

[The EnforceR]

lol terry....this color you are looking for is like finding a woman. its gonna be love at first sight. the second you see it, youll know its THE one. once you find said color, are you going to get on a knee and beg for it to jump on the car?

[98chevyman]

Looks good man i wish i would went with air ride but im not sure if it would be good for the drag strip for me since thats most of what mine will see. Would air ride be good at the drag strip as on the street 2

[The EnforceR]

dont think ive ever seen a drag car with air ride.....so ill guess no

[98chevyman]

well i know that air ride is used in the rears of street/drag thats why i ask kyle. i think germano has bags in the rear of his if im not mistakin but just on one side.

[SlowOhFoh]

not a purpose built one no but i dont see why you couldnt... people use airbags in the right rear of mustangs and in the rears of gtos, why not have air ride completely.

[98chevyman]

yea thats what im thinkin just lower the front before taking of stiffin the rears and once the car is movin have the front bags feel up> i had a bagd s10 i use to do that with and it would take off better like that from a stop.

[The EnforceR]

i dont know much about air bags....but idk how they would like it if you pulled the wheels up for some reason and came down on them hard.

[98chevyman]

ever seen anybody hop an airbagged truck 5 feet of the ground lol i have! they will be fine with pressure at one time like that thats what they do. the pressure they can hold is twice what u usually put into them to raise the vehicle. I wander were terry has gotten all ARS kits? Hit me up terry <

[BluByU383]

Actually...I think you could take air out of the back shocks and put more in the front to plant the rear tires harder. Never tried it......we'll have to see.

[98chevyman]

yea u dont want the rear to squat to much it may induce wheel hop

[BluByU383]

OK guys...here are the new wheels and tires for the wide body. What do you think?


http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1596.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1600.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1597.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1602.jpg

[NEMESISVETTE]

Im in Awww of the wheels Terry, getting a idea of the stance. Whats the brand and size of the tires?

[The EnforceR]

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[BluByU383]

They're Nitto 555's....... 285's on the front and 335's on the back.

[NEMESISVETTE]

rear rim width?

[BluByU383]

WIDTH 18x12

[MrDavid]

Sick Terry, sick.

[snowman03gt]

:shock:OMG love it love it love it

[Whyte864]

Damnnnnn dude this thing is gonna be insane when it's done. Haha are the streets of Simpleville going to be lucky enough to be driven on by this thing? Cause i know for sure i won't miss that when i see it whenever its done.

[justins99ss]

i like them terry good choice

[keith_AE2010]

Heck yeah. You're doing a great job on that thing.

[BluByU383]

Damnnnnn dude this thing is gonna be insane when it's done. Haha are the streets of Simpleville going to be lucky enough to be driven on by this thing? Cause i know for sure i won't miss that when i see it whenever its done.

Oh yea it will see the streets.....as a matter of fact...I may take on Power Tour next year. It has one limiting feature .....no windshield wipers.

[BluByU383]

Here the wiper delete feature.........modified cowl for the Wipple.

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1598.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1599.jpg

[RamAirGod]

terry.............i hate you lol

[BluByU383]

That's OK....I love you anyway. lol

[BluByU383]

OK..I need some help with the air inlet for the cold air intake. The cold air intake is run inside the cowl and the filter is located behind the driverside rear tire....so I need to cut an opening in the quarter panel to get fresh air.
I'm looking for ideas on a scoop. See the piece of cardbord in the photo below. I'll probably put one on both sides for balance. Any pictures/ideas are welcome.

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1596.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1605.jpg

[The EnforceR]

terry....could you just take the CAI pipe all the way down, and have the scoop underneath? plus, with a trap door underneath, you could easily access the filter to change it out

[BluByU383]

Kyle...I hadn't thought of that but that's an option.

[BluByU383]

Oh..I forgot to add...I may just cut an opening and us a screen. Similar to a
Z06 opening....need to come up with a design that fits the car.

[hi officer]

i kinda dont like the idea of a scoop on the side. i would keep it smoof...just my opinion

[WhiteIrocZ]

It has one limiting feature .....no windshield wipers.

As long as it has a relatively new windshield (no pitting) which I wouldn't imagine would be in a car of this caliber, treat it with PPG's Aquapel. You won't need wipers even when it is pouring down rain. Its like Rain-X times 50 literally. Its a commercial product but I should be ordering some for the shop here soon. Its only $20 an application and you'll never need more than one.

[BluByU383]

I'll get with you once I'm ready to roll....this product sounds great.

[BluByU383]

What do you guys think about the stock hood mod?
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0398.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0397.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0401.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0399.jpg

[justins99ss]

i like that thing is HUGE!!!

[MrDavid]

holy big blower

[The EnforceR]

wow dude.....wow. so is it gonna be this hood? or the other?

[BluByU383]

wow dude.....wow. so is it gonna be this hood? or the other?

I don't know yet....I'm probaby going to cut the Sunoco hood too and see how it looks. Worse case I could patch it.

Looking for input.

[The EnforceR]

personally......i think that given the curves that this car has....it needs something other than a flat stock hood. now, obviously its gonna be hard to find a hood that has curves to it that match the car, and at the same time look good with a hole cut for the blower.

heres what i think would look the best. get an extended cowl hood (extends into the windhsheild area and would cover the modded windshield and TB. it looks like the back half of the blower would fit under that hood with no issues. actually the entire blower would fit under that hood. instead of cutting the hood from the front of the blower all the way to the back, only cut the hole as needed. i.e. just cut it at the front with the blower sticks up high and where the belt and pulley is. that way, its kind of a teaser to someone when the hood is shut, and makes people wonder what lurks beneath!

[BluByU383]

anybody on here have a high rise hood I could borrow to test fit?

[01BlackBird]

you sure the extended sunoco wouldnt clear that? it looks as if it would from the pics but i cant say. i dont care for the stock cut hood. just my personal opinion but you know what they say everybody has one

[MIKE02TA]

To probably run the extended hood, you probably need a baby pulley on there and it still might not clear, so cutting is almost iminent. Maybe a six inch cowl hood that extends to the windshield would clear the pulley. How tall is the sunoco hood in the middle. Try this put stock hood on, measure how tall the blower sticks out of it, top of hood to top of blower, then measure the inside heighth of the sunoco hood then you will know if it clears or not. just an opinion

[The EnforceR]

cowl hood wont look good at all. this car is too curvy for the sharp angles that the cowl hoods have IMO. i dont think it would look bad at all even if he did have to cut part of an extended sunoco hood just for the pulley or part of the blower. the viper hoods look great with te little teaser peep hole in then. or maybe find a way to put the viper hood scoop where the pull is on one of the aftermarket camaro hoods?!?

[MIKE02TA]

How tall is the sunoco hood? Maybe not a cowl hood but something that tall! So he doesnt have to cut a hole in the hood, would look a whole lot better without a hole, in my opinion.

[Nauty99SS]

is the windsheild gonna fit ?

[The EnforceR]

i think a hood that is big enough to fit the entire blower under it would be overkill for this car. tons of show cars...check out the prostreets, have holes cut nicely for the blowers.

[MIKE02TA]

And they have stock or cowl hoods cut to show the entire blower not just a piece of it sticking out. And like I said just my opinion

[The EnforceR]

yea no one knows what will really look good on this thing until its actually seen in person i guess. its not like you really see any oter wide body verts around to get an idea of what looks good lol

[MIKE02TA]

Aint that the truth. So all I can say is trial and error

[BluByU383]

is the windsheild gonna fit ?

Yep....stock windshield with a big hole!!!!!

Sounds like trial and error might be the only option......or maybe no hood.

[BluByU383]

Ok....what do you guys think about the Sonoco hood with a cutout for the pulley???
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0408.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0409.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0410.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/CIMG9970.jpg

[justins99ss]

i think i need to make a trip to hawks to see this thing!!lol

[The EnforceR]

yep terry.....thats gotta be the hood! i think it looks great. it may even look good with a thin section cut back exposing maybe just a few inches of the blower.

[BluByU383]

Well....I'm still trying to pick the "right" color for this project. Need some input.
How would this Steel Gray (first photo) look on a widebody? Especially with this killer stance!
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/CamaroSteelGray.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/WideBodyBlack.jpg

[SlowOhFoh]

smaller pulley!

[The EnforceR]

i like that color....it would show the curves well. i still think it needs to be a color thats in your face loud though!

[BluByU383]

Is this loud enough?
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/2009Q1478.jpg

[The EnforceR]

yep!

[MIKE02TA]

Cranberry color is awesome and would look great on a convertable, especially on a wide body, but might get bashed on this one but "IN MY OPINION" i would put a small pulley and close up the hole, would look 10X better.

[1997b4c]

if you had a good fiberglass man he could make that cowl fit with that pulley and no one would know the diff.

[406malibu]

Cranberry color is awesome and would look great on a convertable, especially on a wide body, but might get bashed on this one but "IN MY OPINION" i would put a small pulley and close up the hole, would look 10X better.

not to mention the extra boost with the smaller pulley

[2001z]

Im not big on that red it is a little to bright for me . I do like the steel gray or something along those lines.

[2001z]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b390/2001z/paint0066.jpg
cyber gray is my favorite color on a f-body!

[BluByU383]

I'm leaning towaed letting the whole Wipple stick out of a stock hood.........just cut it real close around the blower.

[The EnforceR]

IMO a flat stock hood is too boring for that car....gotta have some curves to it to match everything else. sunoco hood all the way! i think if the entire blower is exposed...it looks too 90s/pro street type. one day next week ill ride down there with ya and check it out!

[BluByU383]

Well......how many Sunnco hoods you see?
How many Wipples poking out the hood........none that I've seen!!!!!!

Actually I may do both hoods.

[PeelerSS]

What about a small cowl cut for the blower to rise slightly threw? I agree with Kyle stock on this car just want do. It needs to be in your face in every way shape and form.

[The EnforceR]

What about a small cowl cut for the blower to rise slightly threw? I agree with Kyle stock on this car just want do. It needs to be in your face in every way shape and form.

hes already did this and put pics up of it a page or two back....looks great IMO!

[PeelerSS]

O lol I saw the pics with the small cut around the pulley. Did he do one with the whole blower sticking threw? Cell phone CHO ftl lol.....

[The EnforceR]

with a cowl hood like the sunoco, the whole thing isnt gonna stick through. he only cut the part that would stick through. if he cut the hole big enough for the blower, the back of it wont rise above the surface of the hood, so itd be kinda pointless.

hes an idea........take the sunoco hood you have now.......leave the front of it cut out. then, cut a section out behind that and replace it with plexiglass. so the blower sticks out of the hood on the front, and rest of the blower will show through the plexiglass. hmmmmm.

[BluByU383]

Also thought about making an opening similar to a C6 hood. In other words add a little more rise to the Sonnco hood with an opening in the front......kind of like an SS hood.

[BluByU383]

Well....I'm still trying to pick the "right" color for this project. Need some input.
How would this Steel Gray (first photo) look on a widebody? Especially with this killer stance!
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/CamaroSteelGray.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/WideBodyBlack.jpg

What if I painted the car Steel Gray and airbrushed the Raspberry color around the fender flares and along the ridge in the Sonoco hood. The air brushed color would only be seen in bright sun conditions. Then paint a raspberry hockey strip.
What do you guys think?

[The EnforceR]

Also thought about making an opening similar to a C6 hood. In other words add a little more rise to the Sonnco hood with an opening in the front......kind of like an SS hood.

thats exactly what im talking about, except just have the front of it cut so the high part of the pulley can stick through.

not sure about painting the flares and scoop. i think one body color....along with the grey top, will be classy looking, but can also be kinda in your face as well. also, didnt think about it at the time, but if you are still set on the grey top, the cyber gray color may not look right unless it matches it perfectly! if that artist would get on the ball, it would be esay to make a decision!!!

[BluByU383]

That was the reason I wanted the artist to do the car.......so it would take some of the guess work out.......6 wks later nothing. I'm going to send him an email and give him a date that I need it.

[BluByU383]

We'll my artist sent me a few views of the Phatboy today. I ask him to add a hood scoop to the front of my Sonoco hood.

What do you guys think?
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0559.jpg

[MrDavid]

Thats sick!

[BluByU383]

Thanks......I was hoping I wasn't the only one that liked it. I kind of stole it from the Viper look. Sorry about the picture quality......I've tried several ways to bring it into focus .......but no luck so far.

[MIKE02TA]

Terry now that looks good, Accents the wide body very well and also brigs some intimidation to the table.

[The EnforceR]

I like

[89RABIDFOX]

Bad ass!!!

[snowman03gt]

Loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee itttttttttttttttttttttttttttt