Project Phat Boy

[Camaroslpss]

Nice!!!!

[MrDavid]

Can you post a pic of the whole artist rendering?

[PeelerSS]

^+1 and Terry this is going to be the most bad azz ride around. I mean AROUND.........

[The EnforceR]

I don't think Terry wants to put a pic up of the whole thing...people from LS1tech troll here, and before you know it it'll be floating around. Kinda gotta keep this one sort of a secret till she's done!

[MrDavid]

Put it in Mexico, that will keep em out.

[BluByU383]

David....like kyle said I kinda want to limit the viewing to some degree. I'll post it up if we have a thread that can't be copied. I'd love to share it with our group.....just not everyone.

[MrDavid]

Best way to do that is to bring the pic to the next meeting. If there is a digitial copy of the car online, someone will find out how to get it.

[BluByU383]

That or I could PM it to you.

[MrDavid]

Thats fine.

Disclaimer: If it looks too badass, I might make it my desktop background!

[The EnforceR]

If that's the case...I guarantee it will be your new desktop.

[MrDavid]

Yep, desktop.

[BluByU383]

BIG props to the artist.......check out his work
www.carsbykris.com

[MrDavid]

This dude is all about some widebody cars isn't he?

[The EnforceR]

He is the one that did the original artwork and design on the GMMG widebody cars....so yea, he's all about em!

[98chevyman]

what kind of wheels are on that steel grey ss

[The EnforceR]

Kent....those look like iForged Evolution.

[98chevyman]

k cool thanks

[BluByU383]

OK guys....I need some help.

It's time to select an exhaust system for the Phatboy. It needs to sound great and look killer as well.....keep in mind the entire bottom of the car will be painted and cleared.

Also, I need to pick out some gauges. I was thinking of after market gauges.....kind of a race car looking set up.

Suggestions...pictures would be appreciated!!!!!!

[89RABIDFOX]

i like the idea of a custome setup with the gauges. and idk much about what sounds good on them cars and what doesnt. i would say do a exhaust that wont be seen. just leave outside of the car clean

[The EnforceR]

If you don't go the custom Autometer route......this is way cool and you level of customization is endless.....you can also get matching HVAC stuff for it too..


http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_37_74&products_id=102


For exhaust...go crazy with it. Its gonna be seen at shows if you use mirrors under the car, so make it stainless. Shoot.....stainless 4 inch with magnaflow, and fina a way to step it back down and make it work with the CME....the big single CME tip. That is assuming you are still ussing CME.

I think this looks dumb on other cars, but yours will be wild enough to pull it off...
http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_34&products_id=34

[01BlackBird]

DO NOT do the big single cme. go with the original style cme also its all high end on this car so go all stainless true duals over the axle into the cme

[NEMESISVETTE]

DO NOT do the big single cme. go with the original style cme also its all high end on this car so go all stainless true duals over the axle into the cme
I agree 100%.. That single cme is Rice and would look like poop! O and Jay your new sig is KILLER!

[The EnforceR]

Haha, I knew I would get flammed for that. The one car I've seen it on in peson actually looked good to me, nd it's different. But I do agree it may be a little TOO different.

[PeelerSS]

+1000000000000000 for stainless true duals over the axel into heavily polished OEM cme its buy far the best looking exhaust on ANY camaro especially a wide body.......

[LWillmann]

If you want different, go with BoomTubes!

[01BlackBird]

I agree 100%.. That single cme is Rice and would look like poop! O and Jay your new sig is KILLER!

thank you sir

[MrDavid]

also agree with no single CME. Looks like your car has a big asshole in the back. Custom 3" 300series stainless steel exhaust will be FTW on the Phatboy.

[98chevyman]

also agree with no single CME. Looks like your car has a big asshole in the back. Custom 3" 300series stainless steel exhaust will be FTW on the Phatboy.

hahahahaahah

[BluByU383]

Here's CME tips that I plan to use. The overall look on this car is what I'm after.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/PBColor.jpg
Except I think it would look better with the CME valence molded into the body.

[99LsOne]

Freakin Nasty!

[BluByU383]

Hey Kyle....the 6Le stuff are overlays.......I was thinking more autometer gauges like this.

http://img296.imageshack.us/i/70pb.jpg/

[RamAirGod]

In GM HighTech a few months back there was a red turbo (i think) Camaro that had that custom gauge setup. I dont remember off the top of my head what issue it was but the camaro had black ccw's

[DTSVT03]

Terry I saw the phatboy a few months ago while I was over at Bruce's place checking out the cts-v.....man oh man did your car look killer, and that big ol 4 liter whipple is definitely tits! I look forward to seeing this ride when its complete.

As far as sound, I would maybe go with the Borla stinger mufflers. I love the raspy sound those lsx engines have with a nice choppy cam.

[The EnforceR]

Jay up at Zeus in Charlotte has an AWESOME gauge setup in his SOM Formula. I can't find a pic anywhere though....

[BluByU383]

Terry I saw the phatboy a few months ago while I was over at Bruce's place checking out the cts-v.....man oh man did your car look killer, and that big ol 4 liter whipple is definitely tits! I look forward to seeing this ride when its complete.

As far as sound, I would maybe go with the Borla stinger mufflers. I love the raspy sound those lsx engines have with a nice choppy cam.

Danny....thanks...Bruce has been extremely busy the last 3 months so we haven't made much progress......but that's about to change. He wants to mock up the exhaust so once it goes to paint we won't have to make any new cuts etc.

Bruce kinda likes the Magna Flow mufflers.

What other mufflers sound good but can fit in a small space? Going to try to put true duals.....over the axle may prevent dropping the stance....don't know yet. Remember this thing has air ride...so I want to get it low.

[01BlackBird]

go magnaflow

[DTSVT03]

Stingers are pretty small...just saying lol

[The EnforceR]

Terry you told me on the phone earlier Bruce like Dynomax....I thought you must ahve meant Magnaflow lol! I have changed my vote to this....

3 inch true duals with Magnaflow bullets. As you said...over the axle may not work with the air ride and low stance. Go UNDER the axle (like my old setup and also the 03-04 Cobras). You can have collectors put under the axle so you can unbolt it if the rearend needs to come down. Have it all polished stainless. I always LOVED how the termy Cobras look from the rear with the tailpipes running under the axle. Imagine that but in a low and wide Fbody!

[01BlackBird]

i vote go over the axle if anyway possible, i think it lookes much cleaner and a more facory look

[KUTTER]

Here's CME tips that I plan to use. The overall look on this car is what I'm after.


raw....raw.....RAW!

[1997b4c]

i vote go over the axle if anyway possible, i think it lookes much cleaner and a more facory look

i think factory look is completly out of the question for this car lol

[The EnforceR]

Plus wun.....factory!? Come on Jay!

[BluByU383]

Making some progress on the Phatboy.........ordered the engine last week:

427 LSX iron block 6 bolt per cylinder billet main caps, balanced and blueprinted
Callies 4.0 crank with 6.125 H-I rods
Wiseco 4.125 FI forged pistons with heavy wall steel wrist pins and coated skirts
Clevite H mains and rods
Smith Bros push rods
LS7 rockers...modified
Moerl high RPM lifters
PI LS3 heads....flow 395cfm on intake and 250cfm on exhaust
Cam Motion custom cam
Double roller timing chain w/ nitrited gears

Moser M9 with 370 gears

[DTSVT03]

You adopting any time soon Terry? Lol

Sounds like it's going to be one nasty beast.

[BluByU383]

You adopting any time soon Terry? Lol

Sounds like it's going to be one nasty beast.

If I ever get my 25 yr old on his own......I might consider adoption. But if I were you... I wouldn't bank on it....lol

Oh...almost forgot....my daughter starts Clemson in Auqust..$$$$$$

[406malibu]

If I ever get my 25 yr old on his own......I might consider adoption. But if I were you... I wouldn't bank on it....lol

Oh...almost forgot....my daughter starts Clemson in Auqust..$$$$$$

Congrats, I'm sure she'll love it. I know I loved it... loved it so much I stayed for 5 years LOL :alcohol:

[02ws6NBM]

If I ever get my 25 yr old on his own......I might consider adoption. But if I were you... I wouldn't bank on it....lol


shit, i wouldnt leave either........

[Coppertop8705]

did the whipple get srapped? or is that motor going to meet that supercharger here soon?

[TurboLSX]

looks good terry

[BluByU383]

did the whipple get srapped? or is that motor going to meet that supercharger here soon?

Oh no......the Whipple is the icing on the cake!!!!!!!!

[Coppertop8705]

Oh good lord that's gonna be nasty.

[01BlackBird]

who you getting the engine from

[TurboLSX]

are those ls3s modified for 6 bolt application?

[SlowOhFoh]

Terry you told me on the phone earlier Bruce like Dynomax....I thought you must ahve meant Magnaflow lol! I have changed my vote to this....

3 inch true duals with Magnaflow bullets. As you said...over the axle may not work with the air ride and low stance. Go UNDER the axle (like my old setup and also the 03-04 Cobras). You can have collectors put under the axle so you can unbolt it if the rearend needs to come down. Have it all polished stainless. I always LOVED how the termy Cobras look from the rear with the tailpipes running under the axle. Imagine that but in a low and wide Fbody!

the only reason you can go under on a cobra is because of the IRS, when you swap to a stick axle you have to go back to over the axle tubes... then again we can get away with 3" over the axle no problem :)

[Green to da Bean]

Actually you can go under the rearend as well. Shon's old '94 had them under the rearend. May want to run some oval shaped exhaust though to do this on a lowered car.

[SlowOhFoh]

yeah ive seen it done before but i was just refering to mudstain stuff...

G-Body Wagon at shadyside that had 10-ft of strait pipe under the axle out the back of the car is still the best exhaust ever...

[BluByU383]

are those ls3s modified for 6 bolt application?

LS3 heads are 6 bolt with LS7 triunion mod for rockers

[BluByU383]

Actually you can go under the rearend as well. Shon's old '94 had them under the rearend. May want to run some oval shaped exhaust though to do this on a lowered car.

See thread # 279.....already ordered the tips and valence.........due to clearence issue when lowering the car (air ride).. I decided to go with a single 4" from the y pipe over the axle then split into two chambered exhaust to the CME.

Do you guys like a "smoothed" CME valence or just leave the recessed body line?

[02ws6NBM]

this thing is really going to be something to see when its finished. is there a waiting list yet for who get to ride in it? if so, I would like to be added to the list.

[BluByU383]

this thing is really going to be something to see when its finished. is there a waiting list yet for who get to ride in it? if so, I would like to be added to the list.

Yep...I'll have room for one passenger....you are on the list!!! Doing a rear seat delete....NOS passenger will occupy the rear seats.lol

[rmtt]

Making some progress on the Phatboy.........ordered the engine last week:

427 LSX iron block 6 bolt per cylinder billet main caps, balanced and blueprinted
Callies 4.0 crank with 6.125 H-I rods
Wiseco 4.125 FI forged pistons with heavy wall steel wrist pins and coated skirts
Clevite H mains and rods
Smith Bros push rods
LS7 rockers...modified
Moerl high RPM lifters
PI LS3 heads....flow 395cfm on intake and 250cfm on exhaust
Cam Motion custom cam
Double roller timing chain w/ nitrited gears

Moser M9 with 370 gears


Wow....that is very nice!!

[BluByU383]

Hey guys I need some help with valve covers. Post up pictures or provide a web site of some custom LSX valve covers that fit LS3 type heads.

Thanks!!!!!1

[The EnforceR]

My vote is for a nice set of fabbed covers, exposed welds, and have them powdercoated to match the car's color scheme.

[NEMESISVETTE]

My vote is for a nice set of fabbed covers, exposed welds, and have them powdercoated to match the car's color scheme.
I agree.. Some of those after market valve covers can look to busy. I like a nice clean color matched valve cover.

[The EnforceR]

Also, I think it would be a ncie touch to have something engraved on top....the car name, hawks, whatever...

http://exoticperformanceplus.com/performance_parts/index.html?item=702

[1997b4c]

500$$$$ and weigh 40lbs holy shit!!!!!!!!!

[The EnforceR]

How in the world can an aluminum valve cover weight that much. Must be a typo. Those types can be found waaaaay cheaper, that was just the kind I had in mind.

[1997b4c]

for that price and weight it better include some head castings lol

[BluByU383]

How in the world can an aluminum valve cover weight that much. Must be a typo. Those types can be found waaaaay cheaper, that was just the kind I had in mind.

i thought KTech valve covers were pricey......holy crap. How many HP do these suckers add????? lol

If you guys see something similar but around $300 that would work.

How about this......basic tall cover and use the Eldebrock plastic covers but smooth them and add some custom emblems like "427 LSX"?????

[The EnforceR]

ehhh...if you are gonna use the edelbrock covers....might as well just stick with stock valve covers and not worry about it since they wont be seen. This may actually be a good idea, and will allow you to keep the coil packs in the stock location bc they will be hidden.

[BluByU383]

ehhh...if you are gonna use the edelbrock covers....might as well just stick with stock valve covers and not worry about it since they wont be seen. This may actually be a good idea, and will allow you to keep the coil packs in the stock location bc they will be hidden.

Kyle...the Edlebrock covers are "fake" looking valve covers not thr traditional looking coil covers.

[The EnforceR]

That's what I'm saying....if you use the Edelbrock covers.....you can still have the STOCK valve covers underneath, with will allow you to keep the coil packs in their stock location, since the Edelbrocks will cover them all up. Same ones Jim has....but he might get mad if you take his idea!

[DeanJ]

Terry, I just read this entire thread, and came to a few conclusions. This is going to be the badest F-Body ever, and you have too much money to spend on your cars. With that said, WILL you be adopting in the near future ? Keep up the good work, Dean.

[BluByU383]

Dean, I hope you're right on the "baddess FBody" part.......and the wife has come to the same conclusion about me spending too much money on cars.
I hear it everytime I want to go to a car event. This may be my last project......so it's got to be special...lol.

I'm struggling with the interior......I have few ideas but I haven't got the theme nailed down yet. The really high end show cars are fiberglassing everything.....which doesn't fit this car.....but I have to compete with the "flashy" themes on other cars to get the exposure, respect etc.

Its a tuff balance.....in the end I'll build what I want...regardless.

[DeanJ]

Yes, build what you want. With your taste in cars, I'll bet it'll be outstanding. Now what about those adoption papers LOL. Dean

[89RABIDFOX]

you need to get on with this. hurry up with those decisions and get this bad mfer out and prowling

[MrDavid]

This car will do most of its prowling from the back of a trailer.

[02ws6NBM]

so whats the progress update? whats the ETA of this thing hitting the streets or trailer or whatever???

[01BlackBird]

august 2014

[BluByU383]

august 2014

More like the 12th of never!!!!!

Progress will be increasing soon. The Magnum T56 is in and here's a few pics of the motor. They're planning to dyno it this week.

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSC_1351.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSC_1353.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSC_1365.jpg

[rmtt]

Ehhhh....take your time. To me, that part is where all the fun is.

Once I'm done with something, I get bored with it pretty easily and find myself thinking of other things.

But honestly, I don't see you being bored with this project once done!

[BluByU383]

More progress today
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSC_1369.jpg

[2001z]

gonna be a sick car that is for sure!

[WhiteIrocZ]

Gotta love chevy orange. Its coming along good now Terry. Can't wait to see the finished product.

[The EnforceR]

NOW this thing is starting to speed up.

David....you know Terry's cars arent trailor queens, he drives them all a good bit. This one will be driven too!

[NEMESISVETTE]

Terry drives his fleet of bad ass cars regularly. I live 10min from him and in a mths period I see them all being driven by Papa T. I have a feeling this Camaro will be nationally known.

[The EnforceR]

I have a feeling this Camaro will be nationally known.

It will be, I agree.....he's already giving LS1 Tech teaser shots of it. i think soon hes gonna start a thread and really get people interested. I'd imagine magazines are gonna be all over this thing once it nears completion.

Terrry.....here's some Nasty Performance valve covers that have "blemishes" and are being sold at discount. Still pretty pricey, but real nice!

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1286061-nasty-performance-billet-valve-covers-blems.html

[MrDavid]

I'm not saying it will be a trailer queen, but this car will probably have more than double the amount he has invested in any other car so I doubt it will be out on the prowl too much. This car will be worth buying an enclosed trailer.

[BluByU383]

You guys are all right.....it will live in an enclosed trailer.....went and looked at one today as a matter of fact. I'll still drive it though.......just more limited at first.

Oh....and the orange block will soon be silver............motor bay colors are black....Wipple, valve covers,

engine bay..Venom Red.....accent with silver and gunmetal gray.

[The EnforceR]

What are you doing with the fuse boxes? Hide them where I did or relocate them to the interior?

[Coppertop8705]

What are you doing with the fuse boxes? Hide them where I did or relocate them to the interior?


just seent your hidden coils you need to hook a brotha up son.S

[The EnforceR]

just seent your hidden coils you need to hook a brotha up son.S

Been that way for two years now lol. One of the easiest things I've done.

[WhiteIrocZ]

Hate to see the chevy orange go on the block but I'm sure silver matches much better with phat boy's color scheme. This car makes me not only look forward to building cars the way I want, but being an engineer also.

[BluByU383]

What are you doing with the fuse boxes? Hide them where I did or relocate them to the interior?

Going to hide everything in Mexico!!!!!

[Coppertop8705]

i like to have another beer in mexico....

[BluByU383]

What do you think about the graphics on these cars?........just trying to decide what I want to do on mine.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/Camaro9.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/CamaroHurst.jpg

[MrDavid]

Is the GCS drawing supposed to be a car with a LS9 engine?

[BluByU383]

The motor should be here tomorrow.....so things should start to happen. Hoping to be driving it by Christmas. Sounds like a good Christmas present..less interior and paint.

[KUTTER]

Graphics in 2nd pic are NICE.

[2004GtStang]

Graphics in 2nd pic are NICE.

x2

[01BlackBird]

first pic

[BluByU383]

What do you guys think about this interior? I don't like the seats but I like the door panels and console. I've been looking for two years and this is the closest thing to what I had in mind.

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/Phatboy2/DSCF0020.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/Phatboy2/DSCF0019.jpg

[Coppertop8705]

i think the whole interior is a win! awesome center consol, i like the seats and the panels as well

[punisher]

i like the seats.

[Coppertop8705]

lol kind of reminds me of a dominatrix now

[01BlackBird]

i dont like the polished metal cirlces in the seats. i like the design just not the metal rings

[DeanJ]

i dont like the polished metal cirlces in the seats. i like the design just not the metal rings

Exactly what I was thinking on the seats. The console looks good. Also like the graphics from the 2nd pic.

[BluByU383]

Yea....the metal rings just don't do it for me either. I like the overall look of the interior.....looks muscle car ish.

[The EnforceR]

I like that look!

[01BlackBird]

exact same thing without the metal rings would be awesome

[89RABIDFOX]

i like the interior minus the circles myself

[BluByU383]

What do u think?

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0058.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0057.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0059.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0061.jpg
Notice that the last pic has the Eldlebrock covers.......we'll grind it off and add something like "Blown 427LSX" or something.

[KUTTER]

What do u think?

I think I just came.

Looks GREAT

[Coppertop8705]

lucky for you terry i have a very availible f-body chassis with the motor already pulled out if you are wanting to test that thing out first

also hope you don't mind, pic number 1 is my new wallpaper on my phone =)

[The EnforceR]

Valve covers need to have car name....Phatboy! I LIKE!

[DeanJ]

Awsome, Terry. Are you sure you don't want to adopt me, LOL. Later, Dean

[BluByU383]

lucky for you terry i have a very availible f-body chassis with the motor already pulled out if you are wanting to test that thing out first

also hope you don't mind, pic number 1 is my new wallpaper on my phone =)

Thanks for the offer.......but we're going to put it completely together and test drive it a week or so.....then paint it......then put the interior in it.

Hope to test drive it before Christmas.

[89RABIDFOX]

That's bad ass terry. I also like Kyle idea of name on valve cover

[BluByU383]

Awsome, Terry. Are you sure you don't want to adopt me, LOL. Later, Dean

Dean....do realize how expensive it is to adopt? lol

[DeanJ]

Dean....do realize how expensive it is to adopt? lol

Yes, but look at the money you could save by having your own metal fabricator in the family!!!

[The EnforceR]

very true ^

[BluByU383]

here's this biggest challange remaining on the Phatboy......the M9 rearend hits the fuel tank and the ladder bar hits the bottom. Everthing starts to interfer with lowering the rear.....things stop about 2-3 inches from the bump stops. The size of the M9 and the large shockwaves make for a very tight fit.

This will be a fairly costly fix....but to me getting the car as low as possible makes or breaks the car. The objective is to get about half of the sidewall of the tire inside the wheel well.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0064.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0065.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/88formulabird/DSCF0066.jpg

[WhiteIrocZ]

Can you put a fuel cell in the trunk area?

[MIKE02TA]

Terry, looking great man. Hopefully you can start enjoying it soon.

[BluByU383]

Can you put a fuel cell in the trunk area?

I don't know ........the convertible top takes up a lot of the trunk space.

[Biff85ta]

Does the fourthgen vert not leave the rear well like the thirdgens? You could always build a cell to fit that area.

[BluByU383]

Does the fourthgen vert not leave the rear well like the thirdgens? You could always build a cell to fit that area.

Yea...it has a little space but not much. I want keep it open for at least 1 chair...lol

[98chevyman]

still needs to be road worthy for car shows.. hell g15 we gona have to rent a car hauler for u terry with all your vehicles lol especially the super chevy show for the vetter,camaro,and formula