The Rebuild!

[Camaroslpss]

The new rebuild consist of LS1 block, Mahle Forged Pistons, Ls1 Crank, LS6 Cam and the main essentials!!

[NEMESISVETTE]

Ok Shawn I used H serious Rod and Main bearings on my motors. Summit has em and SDPC or TSP.

[MrDavid]

only going with a LS6 cam? How much power are you looking to make again?

[Camaroslpss]

just going with that cam because the price was right. Later on im going to upgrade to the MS4. After i get everything else in line

[The EnforceR]

i know it looks like youre pretty set on that cam, but man itd be foolish to go with somethin so small when for prob $100 more you can geta NICE cam. i bought my cam for $250 shipped and they can be had for cheaper than that! but its your build and you can do what ya want, but itll save ya an 8 hour job down the road. if youre not doing the cam, at LEAST go ahead and put your dual springs in that are required with an MS4, thats the hardest part of he cam swap since half the motor is under the cowl.

[LTBlackBird]

yea, the cam is about $250, but then you need the pushrods and valve springs which is where the money adds up. depending on the heads, that cam can make around 350-370 to the tires, thats with at the very least LS6 heads though that can be found for somewhat cheap. And with the bottom end you can put a nice 200 shot of the go go juice on it :)

[LTBlackBird]

hell, better yet since you're going to have a forged stock cube high compression motor, go get a custom nitrous cam. Can run the juice and make great power, just not a big fan of the MS series but just my opinion.

[Camaroslpss]

And with the bottom end you can put a nice 200 shot of the go go juice on it :)

Thats what im planning on :burnout:

[Nauty99SS]

didn't i see a nice little cam in the floor of mr. david's garage floor , or is that sold ?

[NEMESISVETTE]

All builds are diff. diff. goals and diff. budgets .

[Camaroslpss]

All builds are diff. diff. goals and diff. budgets .

I definitely fall in the diff. budgets category

[MrDavid]

Why yes it is. Its a nice 224/224 that will make at least 390rwhp with a good tune.

[Nauty99SS]

:Camaro: thats the cam i would buy !!!

[Camaroslpss]

Whats the asking price???

[MrDavid]

I need to get $250 for it. I haven't posted it on LS1tech yet because I have yet to take any pics of any of the things I am going to sell. I looked in the WTB section and found a couple of guys who are looking for a mild-moderate cam. I PM'ed one guy but he is wanting a really small cam and said it was too big for him. I'll get to it this weekend if no one wants it around here.

[Camaroslpss]

I would but dont really have the funds right now. All my engine and parts are at the machine shop now. Waiting to see the bill!!

[MrDavid]

I really need the lifters you bought from Gary. I'll trade you the cam and you can pay the difference. Does that help?

[Camaroslpss]

I really need the lifters you bought from Gary. I'll trade you the cam and you can pay the difference. Does that help?

I need them to or else i would.

[MrDavid]

but you need a cam even more :deal:

[WhiteIrocZ]

Was something wrong with your stock lifters SLPSS? If not, I would sell the LS7's and buy the cam personally. 224/224 FTW.

[Camaroslpss]

Was something wrong with your stock lifters SLPSS? If not, I would sell the LS7's and buy the cam personally. 224/224 FTW.

Nothing other than the fact that they had 133,000 miles on them.

[01BlackBird]

just buy some stock lifters cheap and trade david the lifters plus cash for the cam. you will regret not doin it now and having to go through a cam swap again in the future

[Camaroslpss]

I plan on getting a different cam in a couple of months so ill will end up having to buy different lifters anyways. The only reason im putting the Ls6 is because the price was right and its better than the stock one that i had.

[Nauty99SS]

I plan on getting a different cam in a couple of months so ill will end up having to buy different lifters anyways

no you don't , just your pushrods and valve springs with a cam change , not lifters ...

[NEMESISVETTE]

Why is everyone so hell bent on deciding Shawns build for him? Upgrading lifters is necessary at this point of his build. It is easier to change a cam than to pull heads down the road to change the lifters out when they collapse. His factory LS1 lifters have over 120k onem.

[MadMike 97 Z28]

i think tim is saying its not as necessary as spings and pushrods but, I agree with you if they have alot of miles on them it would probably be a good idea to change them. although i didn't change mine.

[MrDavid]

Doesn't matter now anyways. My new LS7 lifters will be here tomorrow.

[Nauty99SS]

:nono: it my understanding he wants a cam , i saw a good cam for him ... just trying to help !!

[LTBlackBird]

when doing lifters on an LS1, any time you have the opportunity to i would, defintely replace lifters man, they're important and you'll have the heads off anyways

[Camaroslpss]

Im definitely going too. Hopefully i can get my old block back because i just found out today that it was an LS6 block rather than and lS1 :headwall:

[MrDavid]

but I thought you said it was pretty scarred up? Didn't you say something like "the machine shop would have to bore it .40 over" ??

[Camaroslpss]

yea it was. i figured if i get it back. later on down the road i can have it sleeved and itll be will be fine. Or should i not even worry about it??

[MrDavid]

Yea, i'd probably get it back. Where is it now?

[Camaroslpss]

at my friends machine shop! im going to pick it up monday morning when they open up

[WhiteIrocZ]

Why is everyone so hell bent on deciding Shawns build for him? Upgrading lifters is necessary at this point of his build. It is easier to change a cam than to pull heads down the road to change the lifters out when they collapse. His factory LS1 lifters have over 120k onem.
Because we like to hear a nice bumpstick in every ls1 we see. I would agree, lifters over a cam any day especially with that many miles on them.

[Camaroslpss]

Everything should be ready by thursday of next week. Hopefully ill have it in the car Sat afternoon at the latest Sunday.

[BRADSBLACK_SS]

Sounds Like Things Are Coming Along For You!!! Post Up Some Pics If And When You Can.

[01BlackBird]

sounds awsome!!!!!!!!!! keep us updated with pics!!!!!!!!!!

[Camaroslpss]

Any on here interested in helping me put my motor back together. The guy that was helping me said that he wouldnt have time till sunday night. I am hoping to be putting it back in on Sat or Sun. Im off work from Fri-Mon so let me know if anyones interested.

[LTBlackBird]

well if you want to bring everything to charlotte...i'd be glad to help ya, sorry i couldn't be closer to help out

[Camaroslpss]

well if you want to bring everything to charlotte...i'd be glad to help ya, sorry i couldn't be closer to help out

Appreciate the thought. Just got the stuff back from the machine shop and now have everything to get my car back on the road. Just gotta put the motor together and put it back in the car!! Should be this weekend.:rockon:

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[MrDavid]

I hope the rest of the build goes OK for you. Going to completely assemble it all and re-install it in the car in one weekend?

[Camaroslpss]

Im gonna try lol. I have four days to do it.

[BRADSBLACK_SS]

Best Of Luck!!! Hope That Everything Goes Well!!!

[Camaroslpss]

Started putting the motor together Sunday night. Were working a couple hours a night on it. In the last two nights we set the cam, the crank and have four of the rods and pistons in place. Hopefully we can finish it up weds night. Ill post the pics up weds night since i kinda left my camera at his house. Does anyone have that "Special" tool for aligning the oil pan???

[MrDavid]

Gary seems to have most of the speciality tools.

[NEMESISVETTE]

the way to line the oil pan up is to put the front cover on with the the bolts only a few threads ( dont tighten yet) same for the rear cover. Put RTV sealant on the 4 corners . then set the oil pan on . tighten it up using the proper sequence and torqe. Then and only then tighten and torqe the rear and front covers. I work 12 hours today shawn but you can text me and I will walk you threw it :) sounds like your doing well

[Camaroslpss]

ill call you when we get to that point. The guy helping me wasnt sure about it. Hopefully we will be putting it on weds night, not sure yet. Thanks for the help!

[01BlackBird]

hows it coming?!!!!!!!! update us with pics!!!!!!!!

[Camaroslpss]

I should be able to post the pics Sunday night. We were gonna finish it Wed night but when i got out of work, someone had broken into my other car and stole my cd player :mad: I got out of work at 6 and didnt end up leaving till 8. It took sptbg county an hour to get there and an hour for paperwork. Unfortunately the guy helping me build my motor was heading for Tennessee Thurs. So i have to wait till Sunday when he gets back!!!

[MrDavid]

Isn't it good to know our tax dollars are hard at work paying Spartanburg's finest? Sorry to hear that Shawn. Keep your head up man, I know it sucks. My first week at Ft. Bragg, someone broke into my blazer and stole my entire system and did $1100 worth of damage. In the end insurance took car of it, but it sure does suck waiting on a check.

[Camaroslpss]

Isn't it good to know our tax dollars are hard at work paying Spartanburg's finest? Sorry to hear that Shon. Keep your head up man, I know it sucks. My first week at Ft. Bragg, someone broke into my blazer and stole my entire system and did $1100 worth of damage. In the end insurance took car of it, but it sure does suck waiting on a check.

Yea tell me about it. but i guess the good thing is that i keep all the valuable items in my ss. Yea it will all be worth it once i get my car going again. Not gonna set a date bc everytime i do something comes up. Life goes on !! oh yea its spelled Shawn lol

[BRADSBLACK_SS]

Sorry To Hear That But Hopefully You Want Have Any Other Problems.

[Nauty99SS]

hows the build coming ?

[Camaroslpss]

its coming along. Going over tonight, and hopefully we will finish it tonight. All we have to do is put in 4 pistons, timing chain, oil pump and bolt the heads on. ill post pics tonight hopefully.

[MrDavid]

If its nearly 7:00 and you haven't started yet, then you probably won't get done tonight unless you are working until the sun comes up. Good luck though and i'm glad you haven't hit any big problems yet.

[Camaroslpss]

Finally finished my motor this weekend with the helps of my good friend Gary and Nate. Im gonna start putting the motor in tom morning. :wrenchbanana: here some pics. Oh yea, there is anyone that would have an extra valve cover bolt by chance??

[The EnforceR]

hope it stays together for ya

[Camaroslpss]

I hope it does too. Just have to get another oil pressure sensor. Advanced ordered me the wrong one :headwall:, but i should still be able to put it in today. Its gonna be a hot one!

[NEMESISVETTE]

Shawn work safe, slow and smart. When you get it inn call me and I will walk you threw first start up and trouble shootin. Dont forget to put the Bible in you lap :thumbs up:

[Camaroslpss]

Shawn work safe, slow and smart. When you get it inn call me and I will walk you threw first start up and trouble shootin. Dont forget to put the Bible in you lap :thumbs up:

I definitely will. I hope to get it in today but prolly wont have everything to start it up until weds. What is the name of the break-in additive that you told me to add in. Im gonna call the dealership tom and order everything that i need

[Camaroslpss]

I know its been longer than i anticipated but Ill be firing up the ss tomorrow after i get off work. All i have to do is put the exhaust on, prime it, put the spark plugs in it and start her up. Wish me luck lol i need it!

[Nauty99SS]

luck you have been wished ...

[The EnforceR]

looks like we'll be starting at the same time. im ready to start mine now but its too late and to loud w/ open headers. im gonna go prime it real quick and be good ot go!

[Camaroslpss]

yea i kinda got rained out so its all good

[The EnforceR]

aww man dont tell me that SS dont have a shelter to sleep under!

[Camaroslpss]

No not yet, one day it will, and soon

[Camaroslpss]

Got everything buttoned up. It came alive :wrenchbanana:. But i have a few kinks to work. Have to take the intake off and check my oil pressure sender bc my oil pressure gauge was tacked. I have a water leak coming from the back of the block. Hopefully its just the water block off at the back. Ill find out tom for sure. hope its not a water jacket!!!
ill post the videos up as soon as i figure out how lol

[Camaroslpss]

here the vids

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=40732559

[MrDavid]

Sounds like its idleing pretty high. Were you just holding down the pedal or could you have a vacuum leak?

[The EnforceR]

cold start, new motor. sometimes crazy stuff can happen at first . LMAO at whoever it is in the background yelling "YEEEEAAA"

[Camaroslpss]

Sounds like its idleing pretty high. Were you just holding down the pedal or could you have a vacuum leak?

yea i had it at about 1500-2500 for about 30 seconds, and the one that said YEAH, was my girlfriend lol. I think she was as excited as me.

[Camaroslpss]

Changed oil pressure sensor and fixed a minor water leak coming from the block off on the back of the motor. It runs nice and idles really well. Should have her on the road tom after i get off work. Have to put the Torque arm on and reinstall the exhaust again. Then she should be good to go! Thanks for everyone help and opinions. :thumbs up:

[NEMESISVETTE]

Great to hear Shawn :thumbs up:

[Camaroslpss]

changed the oil today and there wasnt any metal in the oil.

[MrDavid]

well thats definietly a good thing

[Camaroslpss]

well thats definietly a good thing

yea i know lol

[MadMike 97 Z28]

changed the oil today and there wasnt any metal in the oil.

thats good i would hate for anyone to have to deal with the same problems i am.

[Camaroslpss]

hopefully my all my bad luck is behind me for now. Well see got about 400 miles to go before i hit 500